@Alsides

Hardly true - I can name a bunch of fights in Naxx that are lol easy compared to the 10 man version - especially starting out when gear isn't so great.

Grobbulus for instance - the first time I ever did him on 25 man we lost 10 players to stupidity, but *we still downed him*. First time we did 10 man grob we worked out that if anyone messed up and died it was a raid wipe. Now days dps is so good this boss is hardly an issue, but point it - it was way way easier on 25 man - almost faceroll easy.

Same with Gluth. In 10 man if you don't have a class that is decent at kiting mobs it can be really hard - in 25 you almost always have 5+ people always that can deal with him. Same with 4h - in 10 man if you didn't bring at least one hybrid that knows how to heal himself - it can be rather troubling.

Saph 3d should be a fight geared around 10 man gear, but its not and neither are any of the 10 man achievements. The only guilds I know of on my server that have finished Saph 3d and glory of the raider did it with all best in slot 25 man items.

So I wear my 10 man gear with pride because I know it was harder to get than the 25 man counterpart. If anything its ilevel should be higher in some cases.