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4-05-2009 @ 2:41PM
"And believe me, it's very hard to make me feel sorry for Jaina after some of her actions as of late in Wrath."I don't...I don't understand? Are you referring to her intervention during the Wrathgate events? I don't recall seeing much reference to her outside of that.
4-05-2009 @ 3:07PM
That's what I was thinking. There's CoS, the Wrathgate sequence... And nothing else really.
4-05-2009 @ 3:08PM
I'd guess he's referring to that.I found it highly annoying too.
4-05-2009 @ 3:40PM
Wrathgate is really the only place where Jaina did something new was for the Wrathgate.... And I totally rooted for Jaina there. Personally, I think King Varian is a maniac (I miss it when humans were being controlled by Onyxia) and was glad when Jaina stopped WW4 from starting.(Plus I got a little fangirl squeal from Jaina helping Thrall. I don't care what happens, but I shall always picture them as being together.)
4-05-2009 @ 6:06PM
What..wait...? A female being strong and going along with things to help destroy the actual bad guy but TELEPORTING A WHOLE ARMY away from a city in order to stop a war for the sake of her people as well is...annoying? It's one of the -strongest- examples of Jaina's inherent compassion and yet the fact that she's not someone that can be pushed around by any male. Plus, her conversations with Thrall throughout the events are absolutely adorable, and I admit I got a fangirl squeal there too. Jaina is the ONLY female in World of Warcraft I like. Tyrande is too stereoytypical harsh female, despite supposedly 'missing her heart' with Malfurion. Sylvanaas is sympathetic, totally, and the Wrath gate event actually made me like her a bit more, but she's just as revenge driven as Arthas and it killed alot of innocent people because she wasn't paying attention to her own city and the corruption in it.Jaina? Gives Thrall permission to kill her own father, defies the 'leader' of the Alliance by flat out just teleporting him with no argument. Isn't it indicative of how she's matured even since the Culling of Stratholme? I always thought it dramatically contrasted. Before, she says, "I can't watch you do this" and she WALKS AWAY. I've always hated how she proclaims she won't be a part of it and she isn't - she doesn't try to STOP it either. This time, to prevent a war and to save Thrall, she defies someone who she does know and who she has been working with and who is a fellow human. She defies them, and peacefully prevents the start of the war being an Alliance act.This, of course, changes in Icecrown where the war begins again in earnest- this time, no one can pretend it was anyone but the Horde and ambushing the Alliance when they were trying to go against an enemy that SHOULD be shared. Which, by the way, after reading both sides... was anyone else as shocked as I was that the Horde actually did that? I read the other side because I was -certain- it was a misunderstanding. Finding out the dying horde gloat about the fact they did it... and what the horde ask you to do while dying as opposed to what the Alliance ask you to do... really does make the Horde look awful. I think it's one of the most definitive "Horde are evil" quests in the game and I really wish it wasn't there or Thrall would show up and actually thrash Hellscream for letting things get that out of control up there.
Jaina's likely the only reason Wrynn is alive.I don't know what the alliance does in that little event, but watching Thrall have the elements completely dominate things while Slyvanus was able to demolish things that full raids would have issues with makes me think that he wasn't going to beat them so easily. They were in enemy territory, attacking a group that had just defeated a Dread Lord that had been planning on their attack for years and if they had beaten Thrall it would have actually been worse. Thrall is the only thing stopping Hellscream and if they had killed Thrall, the chances that Saurfang would have been sent to pay Wyrnn a visit would have been pretty good. And as most people in Trade will tell you, the only thing that scares Chuck Norris is Saurfang.
4-05-2009 @ 6:33PM
Sylvanas is hilarious in that event when she starts flipping out like a ninja and jumping all over the place.
4-05-2009 @ 9:59PM
Nice summary of things there Anteia.Think you summed my opinions on the whole Jaina thing there. Responding to the Horde attack on Icecrown, yes it *is* very shocking. I think the story direction with the Horde in Wrath has been very well done. Things are splitting down the seams. On the one hand we have Garrosh and others like him who are pretty much on the road to repeat mistakes of the past and recreate the Horde as a barbaric legion. On the other hand we Thrall and Saurfang holding things together and being all round good guys. It portrays a much more realistic portrayal of a national identity that is fragmented by such a complicated, bloodstained past. Back on the subject of the book, I will definitely be buying it. I loved what Golden did with the Orcs and Thrall in particular in Lord of the Clans (even if it was a bit short), so this should be a real treat!
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