Five tips for inventory management
So I've been leveling an alt lately (yes, despite the fact that it makes my skin crawl a little bit, I've been leveling a Paladin so I can tank and heal with dual specs when they show up), and my biggest problem isn't the XP, since Blizzard has nerfed the leveling time so much. It's not the quests, either -- between Questhelper and having done the 1-60 jig five or six times before, I'm all set for quests now. Nope, it's managing my inventory -- I'm questing so quickly that the biggest problem I have is just keeping bag space open.So here's a few tips I've picked up along the way. Even if you're not leveling, maybe some of these will help. And I'm sure there are plenty of great ways to make sure your bags are clear that I haven't discovered yet (I know for a fact that there are plenty of addons out there that I haven't had an interest in yet) -- feel free to share your own tips in the comments below.
1. Sell the junk (even if you think it's not junk). The quickest way to clear out some inventory is to run to a vendor and just start selling. It can be a tough decision sometimes in both ways: I tend to want to keep things because I have a base packrat tendency as it is, and I always know there's a use somewhere for even the cheapest junk: maybe some Shaman will want that Fish Oil! But the fact is that you have to be kind of ruthless when clearing out the bags -- sell the grays (there are addons that will help with this, though I haven't used any), sell the whites unless you know there's a market for them, and I often even sell the greens -- while die-hard AHers will say you can always make more than vendor for AH on green items, I'm just not patient enough to keep posting (along with the fee that goes with it) until the items sell for a gold or two more than they would for a vendor. Yes, maybe that's why I've never been able to buy a Traveler's Tundra mount, but especially in these days of level 80 dailies and the gold you can earn from them, the bag space is worth more to me than the pennies I'd earn otherwise. If you really can't bear to sell things to a vendor, then...
2. Get a bank alt, and use it for everything. Bank alts are awesome for freeing up bag space. My Paladin is a Miner and an Engineer, and all the ore and Engie doodads that I collect go straight back to my bank alt until I need them again. Given that mail between alts is almost instant and super cheap, there's no reason you can't have a dedicated alt standing by the mailbox in Ironforge or Org with a bank of its own running all of your main's equipment. If you really want to go all out, you can use a character that's already at a relatively high level, and powerlevel their enchanting high enough that they can disenchant all of those greens and make some real money. Just make sure to deck them out nice so everyone knows what they're there for.
3. Gear up right. The number one investment you can make in your character, no matter what class or spec or level you are, is more bag space. Buying bigger bags is always worth it -- if you can fill up that one extra bag slot with something you can see for a few g on the Auction House, your bag will pay for itself within a few hours of leveling or grinding. And don't forget profession bags -- while they have some weird requirements (why don't jewels fit into my Mammoth Mining Bag again?), they're almost always worth it, especially while leveling or grinding for a profession (and when you're done with them, put them in your bank and have them hold profession stuff there). We're also lucky, because we're playing in the time of the Gnomish Army Knife -- if you can afford one or if you have an alt or guildie who's willing to make one for you, pick it up early and use it often. On my Miner/Engineer, that thing saves five slots of my bag space.
4. Organize! Everyone has their bags set up different. Unfortunately, Blizzard still hasn't implemented my bag naming idea yet, but you know you how you like your inventory set up -- I like to keep oft-used permanent items like tools and food in my backpack, extra and off-spec gear in my second bag, crafting mats in my third, and empty space out from there. Everyone has their own scheme for organizing, but as long as you have a scheme that works, stick to it, and you'll be able to not only find things when you need them (I keep my potions on the action bars, but occassionally I'll forget to drag the healthstone over and have to dive into my bags to grab it before I'm killed during a raid), but you'll know when things are out of place that need to go elsewhere.
5. Regular maintenance is better than emergency cleaning. This is one I'm still bad on -- in fact, I know I've forgotten to fly back and train up for the past few even levels I've hit. If you stop by a vendor and clean things up every time you're in town, then you'll be better off when you do start picking up lots of junk. Keep an eye out for quest items, especially -- I tend to turn in quests that I picked up a while ago, leaving one weird spot in a strange place in my bag that then gets filled up with vendor trash that I miss over time. Addons like Onebag can help with this as well, but really, the more organized your bags are and the more time you take to make sure they're in order, the less chance you'll end up having full bags when you really need to pick up that quest item.
Filed under: Paladin, Mining, Engineering, Enchanting, Items, Analysis / Opinion, Tips, Tricks, Odds and ends, Economy, Leveling, Making money
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 4)
Rollo Apr 10th 2009 11:10PM
Gessilia:
You sound like you should write your own bag sorter addon! It's not that hard, it won't be abandoned as long as you play and you'll save time in the long run. ;)
Marveen Apr 10th 2009 11:45AM
"Keep an eye out for quest items, especially -- I tend to turn in quests that I picked up a while ago, leaving one weird spot in a strange place in my bag that then gets filled up with vendor trash that I miss over time. "
Heh, I do this all the time - two days later I find a Large Bear Organ hiding among my feral kit. I guess an addon to bulk-sell vt would sort that, but I'd hate to lose my Pretty Rock (on my rogue) or my Ground Gears "Nobody cares.." (on my priest).
As for inventory managers I use Bagnon - it's simple, has a search function (across characters) and lets you see what you have in the bank at a glance. I also have something that tells me in the tooltip whether I already have some of that item (and on which char) so I can manage rep items, instead of storing 3-9 on separate characters I can have them all saved on my current alt. Probably Bagnon too, but I'm not 100% sure.
I'd switch bag manager if I found an alternative that doesn't require much setup and that lets me manage sets/gear categories better than Bagnon does. But I've stuck with that addon for 3 years now for lack of alternatives.
Quickshiv Apr 10th 2009 11:53AM
I am leveling up a druid for the same purpose and here are my suggestions.
Dump quest helper and get tour guide. If you are already using an addon to point you to the quests you might as well be doing everything as efficiently as possible. Tour guide if you use the tourguide guides or James' you will do quest circuits that will take you into towns before your bags fill up. It will also complete every quest you take so no build up of old quest items.
Every time you are in town
sell all greys/whites
sell all soulbound items you have replaced
sell all soulbound items you will never use
send all boe non soul bound anything to an alt
send all crafting supplies to an alt (ore/leather/herbs/motes etc)
sell all consumables you wont use
The only things you should have in your bags are consumables and quest items everything else should be sold or sent to an alt every time you are in a town. Don't keep "upgrade" gear in your bags either. You will be going to a city to train anyway so just keep it in the bank.
Quickshiv Apr 10th 2009 12:01PM
I forgot to add. Find an enchanter that will de your northrend greens and send all to him/her for the dust. You will pick up cloth and greens fast enough you will be able to get at least 1 frost weave bag per level. Even if you have to tip the enchanter a couple gold it's worth it.
Iceveiled Apr 10th 2009 12:01PM
My bank alt is also a one man guild. Having a free guild tab with all those extra slots is super helpful once you've maxed out your bank slots, especially if you have many alts with all different professions and you're a packrat.
It takes an hour or less to gather enough signatures to form a guild. Once formed kick everybody out and get that free guild vault tab.
barph Apr 10th 2009 12:09PM
There are two great macros on wowwiki if you're not a mod person.
One is a macro that will sell all grey items (you'll use this a lot):
http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros#Sell_all_grey_items
And the macro below it can be used to mail all green items. Be careful to only use it in a new mail message however, since it doesn't check BOE/P status, and if you use it at a vendor it will sell your BOPs.
Nic Lake Apr 10th 2009 12:11PM
I don't know if this has been covered already, but you should look up ArkInventory. This bag is great... you can custom sort things to go to their own sections, it's all-in-one, and it also allows you to view the bags/bank/mailbox/etc. of any other characters that you have logged into as well. Supremely helpful.
danawhitaker Apr 10th 2009 12:10PM
The one "twink" I made on my last new character was bag upgrades. I got a full set of Netherweave bags from the start, and before I was even needing to buy my first mount I had upgraded to Frostweave bags. Yes, I had that much gold. Why? Because I wasn't DUMB ENOUGH TO VEND GREENS. If you just undercut the person ahead of you, you can still make ridiculous amounts of gold at low levels. What I do now with anything that I want to AH since I'm so far from the AH most days (level 80 and questing in Zul'drak) is mail all items I want to auction to my alt whenever I'm near a mailbox. When I'm ready to actually go to the AH, I hop on the alt and return all the mail to myself (I don't want to transfer gold back and forth, and since I only do gear shopping on the character I'm actually on so I can *easily* see what gear my character uses without an addon, I don't want to auction stuff on the alt and have a bunch of gold there).
I don't bother with much sorting. I know the first bag is "crap I really need" - fishing pole, spare weapon, bandages, potions, some food. Bag two is "spillover crap I really need" and starts to turn into "quest items" - although I've made a dedicated point of dragging any usable quest item onto one of my toolbars so I don't have to bother to try and find them when I need to use them. That's saved me significant time and frustration. Bags 3-5 are a mishmash of stuff and as long as I've got 30 free spaces when I start questing I'm fine for hours.
For the love of the gods of Azeroth though, don't use bag space as a reason to sell auctionable items that could make you money. I have friends who do this and as a result they're level 80s who are 3000g off being able to afford epic flying because all the gold they *do* make off dailies is going to level their gear. Ergo, questing with them sucks, ergo, I'm still soloing unless I'm forced to drag out my pathetically slow gryphon (not gonna happen). It's not so bad for getting to instances (being first and having to help summon isn't horrible) but when you're running around a zone doing a bunch of quests it does suck being the first person to get there and then having a 5 minute wait while everyone else flies there slowly.
Big bags and smart selling and mailing to alts - that's the ticket right there.
Houston Apr 10th 2009 12:25PM
I use OneBag and keep everything important at the bottom of the window. This way when I'm questing and what not all the junk accumulates at the top. If I know I just received a quest item or something special I just open my bag and drag it to the bottom. I do this with most RPGs to avoid the junk getting mixed in with the good stuff.
Tach Apr 10th 2009 12:36PM
My biggest problem is food/drinks/potions. I always have a bag dedicated to food, and it's usually filled all the time, with food, drinks, health/mana potions and bandages. I NEVER need all of it, but I'm always afraid of that one time where I need food, and I'm out.
It really negatively impacts my bags space. How do I overcome this?
Zamboni Apr 10th 2009 1:10PM
Find the food that restores health and mana at the same time so you only have to carry one stack of it. It costs more, but it cuts down on the buffet table my characters usually end up carrying around.
jfofla Apr 10th 2009 12:52PM
Maybe if you bags were not stuffed with freakin' cheese you would have more room.
jafari Apr 10th 2009 12:57PM
This macro's been floating around the interwebs for years, so I don't know who to credit. You just click it with a vendor window open.
Unlike some addons, the macro WILL NOT sell anything that is not grey-- the "ff9d9d9d" is the code for grey color in the text.
All it does is find every grey item in your bags and "right-click" them, and give a chat message only you can see telling you "Selling [your grey item]". So if you have a vendor window open, that sells all the grey items. If you don't have a vendor window open, it right-clicks them all, and could equip a grey armor scrap or [The Stoppable Force].
/script for bag = 0,4,1 do for slot = 1, GetContainerNumSlots(bag), 1 do local name = GetContainerItemLink(bag,slot); if name and string.find(name,"ff9d9d9d") then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Selling "..name); UseContainerItem(bag,slot) end; end; end
Bringhurst Apr 10th 2009 12:57PM
Vendor greens? That's a ridiculous suggestion.
Send all your greens to an alt and when you've got a bunch, have a friend disenchant them. You can re-list enchanting mats as many times as you need on the AH since there's no deposit for posting them.
Cailleach Apr 10th 2009 1:02PM
Don't sell greens to the vendor! Take your own advice and send them to your bank alt. List them ONCE. Anything more is pouring good money after bad unless it's a really high ticket item. Any item that comes back from auction gets DEd. Enchanting mats will always sell.
Otherwise, you're pretty right on. You did forget 'pick up EVERYTHING'. That vendor junk adds up.
FWIW, I have 4 toons with epic/northrend flying, with a chopper paid for if I decide I want one and more in the bank, so I'm not hopeless at making money. I don't play the AH or arbitrage, and I don't sell my professional skills, which of course can make you more.
Mike Schramm Apr 10th 2009 1:09PM
This post is about making space, not making money. I agree -- if you're still after an epic flying mount or have a money goal in mind, you should try to AH everything that's not gray (and even some gray stuff, if you think it'll sell). You can make an astounding amount of money just by penny pinching all of the greens and white stuff you pick up -- if it's not gray, there's someone out there who wants it, and they'll pay you much more than the vendor.
But that said, this guide was for saving bag space. If money isn't a huge concern (in my situation, it's not -- I can make much more just running around on my main than being super frugal with my little Paladin) and your main goal is just to get leveling fast, then vendoring greens might be worth the time saved managing all of the AH back and forth.
jafari Apr 10th 2009 1:19PM
You know, I do kind of the opposite of many people here.
I put all my stuff that I feel compelled to carry (hearthstone/pocket knife/regular food and drinks/that extra trinket) in my last bag -- the one farthest left.
I put potions, scrolls, flasks, elixirs, buff food and other buffs in the next one over.
Then, the last two bags and the backpack are ideally empty. That way when I get a quest item, or just pick something up, it goes right there into my empty backpack. No looking around.
I never move the grey stuff except to get it out of the way.
As I'm questing, I intend to vendor a non-grey item, I put it in the first bag. If I intend to auction something, I put it in the middle bag.
At first it felt wierd to have the backpack empty, like the hearthstone somehow holds up the other bags, but now I can't imagine going back to looking in the second and third bags for a quest item.
Dave Apr 10th 2009 1:59PM
I'm more like you. Hearth, skinning knife, fishing pole, lures, reagents; all go in the far left bag. That bag is also for things I'm saving up, like Twilight Texts for Cenarion Rep, or something similar, and also quest items that I know will be in my bag for a while, like that mages staff from the Netherstorm quest chain. Next is Leatherworking mats, enchants, gems, or anything of value that is consumable that I will need on the the run. Middle bag is food organized by health pots, then mana/effect pots, health food, then mana food. Flasks/buff food go in the bottom corner so I can't find them quickly. Some overflow ends up here when questing or if I go too long with out emptying. The leaves my first two bags for quest items and stuff that just drops when I'm running around. Mail goes out to the alt anytime I see a mailbox, and greys get sold any time I see a vendor. Offset gear stays in the bank, because if someone wants me to switch specs, I have to go back to the city anyway. I don't know what I'm gonna do with dual specs.
TL;DR, I roll similar to Jafari.
Voodie Apr 10th 2009 4:02PM
I'm absolutely in love with Baggins.
You can create an All In One-Sorted inventory. This basically beans you can separate your bag into categories. I have one category for each profession, raid consumables, trash, Quest items, etc.
It keeps it clean and is very easy to sort through. You can also get a support add-on that allows you to search your bag for even more efficient inventory management.
Mike Apr 10th 2009 2:53PM
TBag is amazing. Auto-organizes everything.