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4-14-2009 @ 4:09PM
"Items that grant achievements are non-refundable"I'm pretty sure this can't be the case. What about the Superior and Epic achievements. Can someone buy one of the often terrible iLevel 213 relics, equip it to get the Epic achievement, and then return it?
4-14-2009 @ 4:13PM
I assume that they are referring to things that grant achievements simply by virtue of owning one -- e.g. the Wooly Mammoth mount that can be purchased with Emblems of Heroism.
4-14-2009 @ 4:16PM
No, anything that grants an achievement is "non-refundable". I would assume if it granted a "piece" of achievement that it would be non-refundable. You be stuck with it.
4-14-2009 @ 4:43PM
"I would assume if it granted a "piece" of achievement that it would be non-refundable. You be stuck with it."I'm not sure they programmed that kind of complexity into the system. It should work that way, but I wouldn't count on it. It would require extra data stored about each purchased item for those 2 hours to determine if it was "achievement bound" or something like that. They may have implemented it that way, but we wont know until we try it.
4-14-2009 @ 5:02PM
I'm having trouble imagining that this would really be an issue. I mean, if buying the Awesome Chestpiece of Ultra-Coolness +1000 granted you the item level equipment achievement, wouldn't that mean that it was better than whatever you had before, pretty much automatically? That being the case, why would you return it and go back to using your lower quality armor just to have a few more badges / emblems / etc on your currency tab? Wouldn't you want to keep it? To look at it another way, if you expected to come into equivalent iLevel gear from some other source (raid drop, etc.) soon enough that you'd rather save your badges for something else, then why buy the badge gear in the first place? After all, you'd be getting the achievement soon enough anyway. I can totally see someone wanting to buy, say, the mammoth and return it immediately, if they just wanted the achivement, but with armor / weapons? I don't see it. Just my two cents.
4-14-2009 @ 5:50PM
"I mean, if buying the Awesome Chestpiece of Ultra-Coolness +1000 granted you the item level equipment achievement, wouldn't that mean that it was better than whatever you had before, pretty much automatically?"Nope. My hunter uses the item-level 200 cloak from 10 man KT (Cloak of Mastery), but I dropped the badges on the Hammerhead Sharkskin Cloak (item level 213) just to ding [Epic]. The KT cloak is far better than the badge one, despite being 13 item levels lower.It would have been pretty nice to be able to return the cloak as soon as I got the achievement, but meh...I once bought the wrong set piece for my shaman (grabbed ele instead of resto). This feature would have saved me some time, but more importantly from Blizzard's perspective (I imagine) it would have saved the GM who helped me undo the transaction some time, as well.
4-14-2009 @ 6:26PM
"I'm having trouble imagining that this would really be an issue. I mean, if buying the Awesome Chestpiece of Ultra-Coolness +1000 granted you the item level equipment achievement, wouldn't that mean that it was better than whatever you had before, pretty much automatically?"iLevel doesn't necessarily mean an item is better. This is particularly true for classes that use relics in their ranged weapon slot. For instance, I got the epic achievement on my prot paladin by equipping the iLevel 213 libram that buffs consecration by a pitiful amount, and promptly switched it back out for the iLevel 200 libram that buffs my block value as it is superior to the consecration one in nearly every conceivable scenario.Another likely candidate for lower iLevel being superior are trinkets.Comparing iLevel of gear is fine for a quick comparison, but gearing for it doesn't mean you have best in slot unless you are doing a silly vehicle encounter that scales specifically with your iLevel.
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