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4-21-2009 @ 1:24PM
Spreadsheets are nice, but I personally prefer testing against a combat dummy. A good half hour or so on a combat dummy will tell you which weapons to use in which hands, and which poisons to apply to which weapons. It will also help you practice watching timers and getting your rotation down. This doesn't mirror fights against aoe trash pulls very well, but aoe trash pulls on a rogue are cake anymore anyway. Use TotT to MD to the tank, run into the middle, FoK 3 times (vigor + glyph of vigor allows this) blade flurry, killing spree, then FoK again. (I pull 7k+ dps doing this on the trash pulls in the spider wing of naxx25). So yeah, spend some time against a combat dummy. In many cases it will mirror what the spreadsheet tells you; but in may others you'll find that some unorthodox combination actually works better.
4-21-2009 @ 1:53PM
That burns a whole build of your Dual Spec on a Hybrid trash build that isn't necessary. Also, I use Elitistjerks.com a lot but what about the other Rogue theorycrafters in the community?Shadowpanther.net is a great site and extremely easy to use, with builds, gear, glyphs, gems etc etc.Its nice to see you promote the Jerks I think they deserve it for all the work they do but don't forget about the other stellar roguecrafting sites out there.
4-21-2009 @ 2:19PM
Shadowpanther is flawed because it assumes that EP weights are constant across all levels of gear. To quote the TTT article:"Rogue DPS is a complex interaction of a wide variety of stats: strength, agility, hit rating, crit rating, haste rating, expertise rating, armor penetration, and attack power. For example, increasing your agility increases both your attack power and your crit rate; increasing your attack power increases the value of hit, crit, haste, and expertise rating, and armor penetration; increasing your crit rate increases the value of attack power, haste rating, and armor penetration. Because of these interactions, it becomes very complicated to evaluate a piece of gear in a vacuum (i.e. with no assumptions about the rogue's stats before the item)."
4-21-2009 @ 2:22PM
While that may be your personal preference, the only thing a test dummy is good for is for testing rotations. Even this its not a good indication of what your raid rotation is going to look like, simply because both mutilate and combat rotations are crit dependent for combo point generations and you have more crit in raid then out of it. If you can get 24 other people to debuff the target dummy and give you full raid buffs, more power to you. Chances are though minus raid buffs if some "unorthodox combination" does better dps, its not going to translate with raid buffs the same way.On a side not: Reccomending people spec and glyph into vigor is just collossaly bad advice. It is a PVP talent. If you're using this for a couple niche pulls in naxxramas you are just bad. Here's a tip for you on your AoE packs hit Blade Flurry BEFORE you start your Fan of Knives span.
4-21-2009 @ 2:32PM
Actually, that's my main raiding spec. It's a 20/51/0 build that's served me pretty well on both bosses and trash. I've been running heroics and raids for a while with this build, and the damage increase from vile poisons and improved poisons more than makes up for the loss of relentless strikes. I'm using Instant Poison on my MH (slow), and Deadly Poison on my OH (fast). Now, this pretty much flies in the face of some of the theorycrafting out there, but due either to my gear setup, or my play style, this is what works for me; as verified by targetting dummies, and several raids. Here's the build (hopefully that link works - would love to have a preview button)
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