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4-24-2009 @ 4:07PM
@ Kevin"I have to disagree here. Heroics drop epic gear that has the same item level as 10 man gear. I ran heroics until I got the best I could get from them. I also had quite a few badges to turn in for more ilvl200 gear. I went straight to Naxx25 and had no problems."And for some classes, there is only 1 or 2 pieces of gear from the 5 mans that will carry you into the raids. For example:My priest is disc, and I ran 3 5-mans before going into my first raid, and only had one piece of loot from them. All the rest of my gear was BT/Hyjal gear that was gemmed and chanted for crit. My T6 gear was almost as good as the 5 man gear, and I wouldn't have gotten any decent upgrades until the raids. As for badge gear, I bought the trinket, which I have since replaced. I went into Naxx 25, and I did ok, not great but ok.On my warrior tank, I didnt get ANY epics from 5 mans until I was already tanking 25 man content in a mix of BT/Hyjal/crafted gear. Once again, my old lvl 70 gear was as good, if not better in many cases then the stuff I was finding in the 5 mans. The difference between this toon and the priest is that I had much stricter gearing requirements and was forced to farm 5 mans and ore for badges and to craft my gear. I have to agree with the person that made the comment that the leap from 5 mans to 10 mans was not big enough (i think someone said that). Its just a little disheartening to go from BC where you worked your ass off to get gear in order to raid, and then you come into wrath and faceroll/get it all crafted and get a free ticket into raids. In fact, I'm rolling a ret pally atm in my spare time to prove to some friends that I will me more than able to provide some half decent DPS without touching a badge until my first raid.The final comment that I want to make about this article is this: different people raid for different reasons. I prefer 25 mans for the simple fact that there is a little more room for trial and error. If there is a fight that requires 2 tanks, but you have am arms warrior with a prot set, he can throw that on and help tank adds while the MT's are worrying about the boss. There is also those times where having a DPS'er toss on a shield and 1h weapon and finish off the boss b/c the tank couldnt get heals for one reason or another is nice, and you wont get that in a 10 man. In a 10 man, your raid comp has to be flawless: 2 tanks, direct heals, aoe heals, disease dispell, poison dispell, curse dispell, magic dispell, aoe dps, single target burst dps, dps that can OT in a pinch, dps that can assist on heals in a pinch, at least 1 person that can provide replenishment, and while its not required, it makes all the fights that much easier: a bloodlust/heroism. You need all those things I just listed to come out of 10 people, and in some cases, its not going to happen. Ever try to down spider wing with no BL or poison cleansing? Its damn near impossible (note I said near). Thats not even covering the buffs. Many buffs are now covered by multiple classes (in varying degrees of strengths - 2 min ghetto might needs a buff imo), but in some cases, having a single buff will make a raid easy or difficult: fortitude. Its not required, but ask any tank what buff they want more than anything and their response will usually be fort, followed by kings in the same breath (fortkings).Its not gear that sends me into the 25 mans (although I would be lying if I said it didnt cement the deal) but the environment. I dont get nearly as frustrated in 25 mans as I do 10 mans, and I get a better sense of accomplishment when I raid 25 mans b/c I helped to coordinate 25 people to the same goal.
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