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4-26-2009 @ 2:18PM
Maybe Varian found out that the whole idea for a "new plague" has been on the the mind of Sylvanus for ages? Way, way back in Vanilla, there was all the talk of a "new plague," all under the direction of Sylvanus and her apothecaries. I don't know when Putress arrived to backstab everybody, but in the beginning it was Sylvanus' idea to kill everybody/turn them into Forsaken. Of course, there's the excuse that she was doing that because nobody would except the Forsaken as a legitimate power, so I guess it just comes down to stupid leaders on both sides making stupid decisions.
4-26-2009 @ 2:19PM
Ugh, I fail at spelling. "nobody would *accept* the Forsaken as a legitimate power"
4-26-2009 @ 2:47PM
The "New Plague" was designed to kill the Scourge, and ONLY the Scourge. It wasn't her intent to kill anybody else with this plague.
4-26-2009 @ 3:02PM
I've always wondered how about how direct Sylvanas's involvement with the creation of the plague was , its left very open. The creation of a plague to wipe out the Scourge? Sure, that's got her mark all over it. But the part where this idea changes into a plague that destroys everything that is non-Forsaken in the world, im not so sure.On the one hand, we have her statement: "We are the Forsaken, we will slaughter anyone who stands in our way!", and she certainly is not anyone you'd want to cross, but then we've also seen a more level-headed, diplomatic side to her of late. She's made strong overtures to establishing ties with the Blood Elves, her former race, and her involvement in the Horde seems to have taken on a degree of serious companionship. There seems to be a reasonable amount of trust between her and Thrall, they're never going to be best buddies but they help each other out.As such I wonder if Sylvanas really is hell-bent on wiping out *all* life. When levelling up as a Forsaken character, there are several lowbie quests where you assist the Royal Apothecary society in the creation of a genocidal plague, and you are told this is the will of the Banshee Queen. But we never actually hear this from Sylvanas *herself*. Given that Varimathras's corruption of the RAS has been a long time in the mix, how much of the RAS's actions have truly been at her behest, and how much of it has been rearticulated into their own plans? Indeed, the fact that the RAS organised a coup in order to unleash their plague (in the name of the Forsaken) suggests that Sylvanas herself was not planning on this.I'm not saying that one way or the other is truth, I'm just saying it bears thinking upon. Bringing this back to the topic at hand, the fact that the RAS did start a revolt and the Horde had to fight to get it back under their control should be enough to show Wrynn that he was not deliberatedly attacked by the Horde (who, lest we forget, lost just as much, if not more in the attack). Wrynn lack the skills of a politician, he's a man with nothing more than revenge on his mind, who doesn't want to see the difference between a rogue band of terrorists and the actual Horde because it doesn't suit him too. When Daelin Proudmoore led a rogue faction against the Horde, did Thrall declare war on all the Alliance? No, because he actually has common sense and peaceful intentions. Wrynn desires war and so lacks both.
4-26-2009 @ 3:07PM
You are COMPLETELY wrong, Jiggler.The very first quest you ever get from the Royal Apothecary Society (I think), " A Recipe for Death" in Silverpine Forest:"Arthas's numbers are overwhelming. But with a New Plague we could eradicate both the Scourge Army and the Human infestation once and for all."The Forsaken, at the very least, intended to wipe out humanity as well.
4-26-2009 @ 3:12PM
Wulfkin- the new Arthas novel makes it clear that Sylvanas knows all about the new plague and is quite happy with the fact that it will kill the living as well. She's not a nice woman. (I love her, but she's not a nice woman. *L*)
4-26-2009 @ 4:05PM
"As such I wonder if Sylvanas really is hell-bent on wiping out *all* life."she has shown in the past that she has no problem deceiving anyone to get her way. why anyone... including the other members of the horde would trust her, or the forsaken is beyond me.make no mistake. her bloodlust to see all life on azeroth extinguished is surpassed only by her lust to see the lich kings head on a pike. once that is done i would bet my life that she will make her final move to destroy the rest of azeroth.
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