@ Kylenne:

How is he a shitty king? There has always been a war in 'warcraft'. Wrynn just sees the Horde as a threat, which it is.

If anything, Wrynn's mistake was to trust the horde. War and rampage is all the orcs know. Eventually it would come back to bite him and it did. Saying that the buck stops here, does not make him a bad king. If anything it shows him as stronger than Thrall or Sylvanis since the two allowed (and sometimes encouraging) traiters in their midst.

Sylvanas wants to destroy all life. Thats more than revenge.

How does calm solve the problems of the alliance or the horde? Wrynn is being an effective leader while Thrall is practically a puppet, unable to control his right hand and establishing him in the first place.

How is anything you're saying anything more than speculation or opinion. Use some examples.


@ Fizzl:

The humans you're fighting owns the land as well. Undead attacked them first. Saying that they attacked the forsaken first is ridiculous.

Creating a plague that wipes you out too, isn't playing to your strengths. Its the equivilent of creating nukes to wipe out the world. As for a change in attitude, your still having the forsaken wanting to wipe out life and you still have the plague and it's original intentions. I can't say with certainty, but it wouldn't seem likely that Sylvanis would just get rid of it all.


"Death to the Living" is spoken by all forsaken npcs. It's mission is repeated many times in quest dialog and books. There isn't much room for you to move around here.

You reference one gnome. With the orcs, its practically the entire species. And .. yeah.. the whole comment on, "oh we're going to cure the lands after we wipe everyone out" doesn't help your cause.

uh.. why would you assume the lich king will only die by a plague weapon? He's has a corporeal body now. Shoot, even when he was in a thrown he could have been destroyed.