Varian Wrynn is Right

Among WoW players these days, it seems to be a popular opinion that King Varian Wrynn is a narrow minded short-sighted bigot who will lead the Alliance to ruin. This is an easy opinion to have, since he does show a considerable amount of anger at times when dealing with the Horde, and it's long been the general opinion that "no-one is truly evil" in the Horde and Alliance conflict. This is even the opinion of some of my fellow writers.
Here's my problem with this: The underlying causes of Varian Wrynn's anger are all unconditionally justified. Varian Wrynn is not angry at the Horde because of a series of misunderstandings and misinterpretations. He's been witness to or victim of multiple wrongdoings and atrocities perpetuated by the Horde time and time again, both the new Horde and the Old. Most, if not all of these times, the wrongdoings have been the result of outright maliciousness on the part of the Horde or its members, and in the case the so-called "peaceful" New Horde, there's been no sign whatsoever that Thrall is punishing or disciplining the perpetrators of these acts, and at the least, it is clear that he is not properly dealing with the consequences.
Regarding the First Fall of Stormwind
The first fall of Stormwind occurred when Varian Wrynn was a young man. So this was Varian's first encounter with the Orcs. Now mind you, this Orcish Horde had no justification for the war. They were not being driven from land, they were not starving or lost, nor were they addressing some ancient affront by the Human race. No, these Orcs were foreign invaders from another dimension
Consider, also, how they eventually razed Stormwind. They were able to do so by way of Garona, a Half-Orc assassin acting on behalf of the Horde. So Varian not only saw that the Orcish Army was a mindlessly violent army bent on the destruction of the human race, but that the one Orc who might have been different, the one Orc who appeared to have befriended humanity and proven that not how all Orcs were mindless beasts, betrayed them and proved herself an enemy to humanity by murdering Varian's beloved Father.
Horde apologists will tell you that Garona was acting under mind control. There's two problems with this. First, Varian has no real way of knowing Garona was mind-controlled at the time. All he knows is that an Orc gained the trust and friendship of his father, then used it to betray and murder him, causing the downfall of his kingdom and very nearly the downfall of all humanity. Secondly, Garona was still under the control of the Shadow Council, which was at the time solely an Orcish organization and the de facto leadership of the Horde. Either way, it was the Horde who killed his father and nearly wiped out his people.
On Varian's loss of his second father and Humanity's loss of their greatest Hero
Now, consider the aftermath of this incident. It was Anduin Lothar who saved what remained of Stormwind's people after the razing. He spirited Varian away to Lordaeron along with the rest of the survivors. Once in Stormwind, he replaced Llane as Varian's father figure and mentor, and worked with King Tereneas to establish the Alliance, the force that became the only hope of humans, dwarves, and elves against the Orcish Horde.
And yet, Anduin Lothar was killed in cold blood by the Orcs during their attempt to finish what they had started at Stormwind, killed by Orgrim Doomhammer himself.
Horde Apologists will argue that Orgrim Doomhammer was not under the influence of the Burning Legion, and that he was doing it in self-defense, but again, there's problems with those who insist on this. First, while Orgrim was a friend of Durotan and supposedly had heeded his warning that Blackhand and Gul'dan did not have the Horde's best interests in mind, he still allowed Gul'dan to live, employed his necromancers and the Death Knights in battle, and continued the Horde's genocidal campaign against the the Humans. This all strongly implies that Orgrim was more interested in his own personal power, or at least the dominance of the Orcs, rather than doing what was right.
Regardless, whether Orgrim was under the control of the Burning Legion or not, he was still acting as an enemy of the Alliance. In addition, while the forces of the Alliance did have the Horde pinned down at Blackrock Spire, there was no attempt by Doomhammer to parlay. Instead, he went out to kill.
A Note should be made here that in the original events of Warcraft II, Lothar came to Blackrock under a flag of truce to offer terms of surrender to Orgrim, but was ambushed and killed in Cold Blood by Orgrim's order. A retcon changed this to put Lothar and Orgrim in single combat, but the basic crimes of Orgrim remain, and later depictions of the battle (for example, in the d20 Warcraft games player's guides) have left the circumstances of the single combat murky enough that an ambush or deliberate drawing out of Lothar on the part of Orgrim may have still happened.
Regardless of the exact cause of Lothar's death, the point remains that Orgrim, no matter what his ultimate loyalties, continued the genocidal campaign of the Horde upon the Humans, Dwarves, and High Elves, and killed Anduin Lothar in the process. The Horde killed Humanity's greatest hero and Varian's mentor and second father during an unjust war of genocide against Varian's people, the people he was sworn to protect as King. Thus, the injustices perpetrated against Varian by the Horde continue to stack to unbelievable, unwieldy heights.
On the formation of the New Horde and their attitude toward the Alliance
Horde apologists will argue that all of these problems are the Old Horde, and that the New Horde should be treated as a new, separate entity. Once again, there are very definite problems with this view. Not only are most of the Orcs that make up the current Horde the same Orcs who were the rank and file and leaders of the Old Horde, the fact remains that the New Horde is still using many of the trappings and philosophies of the Old Horde, and is more and more committing new violent acts of their own.
To start with, on the most basic of levels, Thrall continues to use symbology and symbols for the Horde that are, in Human experience, most clearly and basically connected with the Old Horde that was attempting to wipe out the free peoples of Azeroth.
The very title "Warchief" is said to be an ancient title of the Orcs. However, current lore suggests that the title had fallen out of use, and was only taken up again by Rend Blackhand as a tool by Gul'dan to unite the clans as an army of darkness and death. Orgrim Doomhammer took over the title, but continued to use it as the head of a genocidal army. Thrall now claims the title, but the fact remains that, ancestral ties or not, it has been most recently used as a tool of the Burning Legion, only very vaguely tied in to the heritage of an old line of Warchiefs that may or may not have existed, a history that Thrall, as of yet, shows few signs of trying to uncover. When Thrall uses the title Warchief, it is most clearly being used to evoke the power and authority of Orgrim Doomhammer.
Yes, Thrall and the Horde still revere Orgrim Doomhammer, the bloody Warchief who killed Anduin Lothar, the savior of humanity. He is considered a Hero, so much that Thrall wears his armor and carries his hammer - the same Hammer that killed Lothar, or one very similar to it. Thrall calls for peace while wearing the armor and weapon of an Orc who very nearly destroyed Humanity, ostensibly to honor him. In addition, he calls his capital, the symbol of the power and might of the new Horde, Orgrimmar. It's not very hard to see why a human, dwarf, or High Elf might find this symbology a bit insulting, and wonder why the "New" Horde is so eager to honor the Orc who committed some of the worst atrocities of the "Old" Horde. It's even worse for Varian, considering how close he was to Lothar, who was murdered by Orgrim.
Orgrim certainly isn't the only one to be honored like this either. Many of the main generals and architects of the Human, Dwarven, and High Elven genocide are now revered and honored by the Horde, with little to no attempts made to acknowledge their faults and the very real war crimes they committed against the Alliance. Grom Hellscream was one of the first to drink the Demon's blood offered by Gul'dan and commited many atrocities against the Draenei, against humans in the second war, and against Night Elves later.. Kargath Bladefist likewise has had multiple landmarks and fortresses named in his honor, and when he was killed in Outland after revealing himself to be a continued servant of demonic powers, Nazgrel (Another war criminal of the "Old" Horde) spoke of him with respect and honor.
If you are trying to break away from the example of the Old Horde, embracing so much of it seems like a very counter-intuitive way of doing it, and Varian, having at least seen the way Orgrim himself is honored, has a right to at least be made uncomfortable by this.
Filed under: Horde, Alliance, Analysis / Opinion, Lore, NPCs






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 11)
Erz Apr 26th 2009 4:09PM
varian is lorewise (beside dks) the most interesting thing that has happened to wow since release imo.
go varian!
Jingo Apr 26th 2009 6:23PM
Setting aside the grammatical errors and rampant use of the term horde apologists (wow I haven't cringed that many times since I saw Scary Movie 2) this is horrible... I don't understand why people invest in another god damn tortured, whiny anti-hero.
The right thing to do in Lore for the Alliance would have been a successor to Lothar, somebody in that vein. Bolvar was headed in the right direction but he was always going to be a minor player.
I rolled Alliance with friends when I started, but when there were only a few of us left, we rerolled horde because the Alliance is full of incompetents, invalids and gutless, spineless cowards. Your average alliance player doesn't want to improve or learn new skills, will steal from his best friend and cares only for the loot. Which conveniently is reflected in the lore (helloooo house of Alterac).
I rerolled horde the day after I saw the state of Tarren Mill pvp on my server, gangs of 10 or so Alliance chasing down sole horde players. Every single time numbers were even remotely close the Alliance would lose horribly, complain of Horde using cheats/hacks (I still have the screenshots of this hilarity).
There was no lore to keep me on Alliance, no characters I was invested in, I've always liked the trolls and then tauren since WC3, so making the switch was easy.
I found like minded people and pvp success far beyond my expectations, a faction where 1 horde was better than 5 alliance players. Not just in pvp, but in all aspects of the game, I found that horde players were more driven, they were prouder, they never gave up. And you might hate the guy running the 2nd best raid/warsong gulch team on the faction and he certainly hates you back, but the respect is always there, when you overcome your grudges to dominate the shit out of Alterac Valley.
Blizz knew that Alliance (especially the humans) lacked a strong, male figurehead, so they brought in Varian to fill the void, but he's the last thing the Alliance needed right now because there's plenty of brooding anti-heroes in the game already. And the comics detailing his life and recent return to the world of the living were some of the worst I have ever read. When I see idiots buying into this bandaid lore I just feel sorry for them and the state of the world in which we play, you're saying it's ok for substandard lore and carbon copy characters by enabling Blizzard to get away with such cheap writing.
It only irks me so much, because I developed a similar character over 10 years ago in high school for a short story and I'm asking myself, did Blizzard employ a 13 year old to come up with Varian Wrynn?
Beatrix Apr 26th 2009 6:33PM
Unbelievable. After all the clean facts that are listed in this article, Horde fanboy replies below still manage to either avoid the facts, or change them as to fit in their personal view. Unbelievable!
Eversor Apr 26th 2009 7:31PM
Well said Jingo.
Kiingy Apr 26th 2009 7:38PM
The amount of stupidity in this post is amazing.
I have both horde and alliance at 80 and raid with guilds on both factions. Both on the same server as well (Two Accounts)
You are one of those people who think the two factions are played by completely different people, and you are a fool for thinking so.
Eternauta Apr 26th 2009 8:48PM
Varian sucks.
miko Apr 27th 2009 12:27AM
/yawn
let me run this by you...
a portal opens in the Nevada Desert and a bunch of Aliens start pouring out, head for the nearest population center and start massacring the population.
a long war is fought between these Aliens and the collected races of planet Earth.
in the final battle of the war the Aliens are utterly defeated.
(oh and please note little hordies you were UTTERLY DEFEATED at Blackrock Mountain and that was when you were enpowered by demonic blood.)
what happens next ?
i'll tell you what happens next.
the same thing that almost happened in WoW but didn't because the WoW humans have fictitious virtues.
the Aliens would be exterminated and the only ones kept alive would be for study so we would know how to kill them easier should any more show up.
and we, just like the humans of Azeroth, would not give a toss what the Aliens justification was or what they 'used to be'.
Delvin Apr 27th 2009 2:36AM
Yes, Jingo - your Tarren Mill pvp stories are very pertinent to the lore debate.
miko Apr 27th 2009 3:11AM
Jingoism in action
muffin_of_chaos Apr 27th 2009 3:52AM
@Miko
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If Varian thinks that he could easily extinguish the Horde *now*, he's dead wrong. So even with a survivalist attitude, preemptive and/or offensive war would be stupid. Moreover, surivalism isn't what is "right" it's only what is "necessary" if you believe it to be "necessary" for a certain cause. Otherwise, "right" is meaningless.
We know that the Horde isn't really alien in the sense that you describe. Orcs can even mate with Draenei and Humans; Tauren, Trolls and Blood Elves have been around before Humans; the Forsaken are Humans; and the naaru approve of the Horde. Varian should understand this by now, otherwise he's deaf and blind along with being stupid.
The truth is that if Varian was informed perfectly as to what the New Horde was like, he'd be "wrong" to want to war with them; instead, he'd build up defenses only to safeguard accidents from happening or extremists from attacking.
Varian isn't perfectly informed, but he should have enough information by now to do what is right for his people, which is to make demands of Thrall to keep the Horde in line and fight back if provoked, not to antagonize and be the aggressor. He's not too bad right now, but he isn't being at all smart.
miko Apr 27th 2009 4:23AM
'isn't really alien' i'm sorry ?
Orcs are the majority of the new Horde and they are from another planet - i fail to see how that 'isn't really alien'.
the rest of the horde consists of:
the remains of the Tauren who were almost extinct when Thrall met them in WC3.
the remains of one small tribe of jungle Trolls.
the remains of the high elves who survived the Scourge attack on Quel'Thalas and became blood elves (which is by no means all of the high elves)
and the Forsaken. who can't reproduce.
as for 'extinguish the Horde' the Alliance could roflstomp the Horde in open war and Thrall knows it which is why he has always wanted peace. if you want to argue against that go find the best numbers you can can from lore sources and compare each faction and i'll be here waiting.
i'll even start you off: there are approx 200,000 people in SW and 14,000-16,000 in Orgrimmar
ladrondelanoche Apr 27th 2009 4:47AM
less QQ moar Pew Pew...
did you really expect a different response?
muffin_of_chaos Apr 27th 2009 4:50AM
"Orcs are the majority of the new Horde and they are from another planet - i fail to see how that 'isn't really alien'."
Let's see...they can speak the same language, they have close enough biology to look almost exactly the same as well as mate, they demonstrate the exact same levels of intelligence, values and sensitivities...
If you found out another group of humans, only colored green, lived on Mars, and they attacked Earth because they were controlled by implants created by evil robots, and then Earth forces defeat the Mars forces and the implants are removed and the rest of the Mars forces were put into internment camps long enough for people to verify that the other group of humans was pretty much the exact same race, would you consider that group alien?
"as for 'extinguish the Horde' the Alliance could roflstomp the Horde in open war and Thrall knows it which is why he has always wanted peace. if you want to argue against that go find the best numbers you can can from lore sources and compare each faction and i'll be here waiting."
Heh, not true. Thrall's a fruit, which is why he wants peace.
The Horde is quite 0bviously the Spartans, and the Alliance is the Persians. I'm reasonably sure the Horde would win. But if Varian is like Xerxes, and thinks he can win easily, it would explain a lot, if not enough.
miko Apr 27th 2009 5:15AM
only enlightened thing you've said so far.
'The Horde is quite 0bviously the Spartans'
quite right, they are quite obviously an entirely martial society.
funny how that doesn't tie in with the peace loving shamistic society they claim to have been before the legion came along or the peace wanting shamistic society they are trying to claim they are now eh ?
in Lord of the Clans Thrall makes quite clear he doesnt want to engage the Alliance in open war because he knows the Horde would lose but hey you believe whatever you want.
because if you can't read it and take it in in one place its highly likely you can't do the same in another so i'm just wasting my time.
muffin_of_chaos Apr 27th 2009 5:35AM
"quite right, they are quite obviously an entirely martial society."
Obviously not entirely. And it's a bit unfortunate they aren't as extreme as the Spartans. They just have a much harder life than humans do, and it results in being better at combat.
"funny how that doesn't tie in with the peace loving shamistic society they claim to have been before the legion came along or the peace wanting shamistic society they are trying to claim they are now eh ?"
Um. How doesn't it? The orcs are tricked by demons into considering the draenei evil heretics, and gear up for war, and then wage war for many years. They obviously get pretty good at it. Also, obviously, they have an ever-increasing population of shamans, and dwindling population of warlocks.
So yeah. They used to be peace-loving, and want to be again. The fact that in the meantime they eke out an exist in Kalimdor and are required to be rather rough-and-ready doesn't change that at all.
"in Lord of the Clans Thrall makes quite clear he doesnt want to engage the Alliance in open war because he knows the Horde would lose but hey you believe whatever you want."
In Lord of the Clans, Thrall is young and has just broken free from captivity, and probably thinks humans won't let him and his kind live free.
He definitely doesn't want war now, for any reason. He's all shamany and diplomatic and whatnot. Tell yourself that he wouldn't lift a finger to help the Alliance if he could avoid it without consequence, and you'll be dead, completely wrong.
"so i'm just wasting my time."
You're wasting my time if you're choosing to interpret the actions and thoughts of young Thrall at one specific point in his life with the actions and thoughts of old Thrall.
Elmo Apr 27th 2009 6:57AM
I can totally understand Varian after all he is a human just like us.
while the perfect leader wouldn't be influenced by his emotions, emotions are one of the defining things that makes us human.
second what suprises me is that the other Alliance leaders don't have that much to say in fact they are invisible.
the Prophet Velen would be a good character to temper Varians agression and you can't underestimate the (diplomatic) power of the Naaru, King Magni he has quite some influence around the world. the Bronzebeard brothers all have their kingdoms and allies.
Tyrande still has her alliances in the spirits of the wild, and Mekkatorque has ehh neat machinery.
what the Alliance needs is more of a council of the races, poor Varian has/wants to do it all alone which is not right imo
Joe Apr 27th 2009 11:32AM
You say all this like Horde is expected to bow down and kneel to the Alliance now that there is this sort of "truce". Fact is there still fighting and still enemies, old and new. Thrall cant tell his people to ignore what has happened to his people by the pink skins, nor is he going to ignore that his people actually did and still to this day try to do something about it. If anything, the margin was raised and diplomacy became an option, but you cant go from 1 generation of horde to the next, and think its all different now.
We're still enemies, simply put.
Thyago Apr 27th 2009 9:34PM
So Alliance is a bunch of cowards, ok...
...Horde claims "we're good now, we swear!" and we're cowards...
...oh well.
Palatel Apr 26th 2009 4:12PM
Regardless of whether you like him, he is a great character.
While some say he is racist, evil or just plain mean, he has brought an interesting development to out static universe.
Karilyn Apr 26th 2009 6:08PM
I will definite agree with you there.
Sadly, it's fairly obvious from the artwork for him, that he's just another in the long line of "Good guys gone insane and become raid bosses"
Look at his artwork, it's near identical to that for Illidan, Arthas, and Kael'thas, and isn't remotely close to the artwork used for heroes on either side of faction lines.
He IS a villain. Give it one or two expansions, and we'll be killing Varian Wrynn as the last boss in a raid instance.
Shame.