Varian Wrynn is a racist, self-pitying, whiny, overly conflicted imbecile who allows his emotions and mildly-founded personal grudges to control his decision making.

>>>And this racist has held off on war for five years. He has tried to make peace several times.

What happened recently? His troops were killed at the Wrathgate. He finally discovered what the Horde and the Forsaken were doing in undercity - with Sylvanas' blessing. The Brokjen Front showed the Horde less interested in defeating the Scourge than in in defeating the Allaince.

Varian doesn't like the Horde. He probably never has. This is the faction that destroyed his homeland. Killed his father. Marched on Lordaeron. Killed Anduin Lothar. Kept him as a slave and used him in gladiatorial games.

And still he took the path of peace, attending a peace conference where Thrall showed up with Varians slavemaster in tow in a position of honour, and insulting the Alliance by showing how much he honoured those who devastated humanity.

And even after then surviving the Orc led assassination attempt, he once again agreed to work with the Horde at the Wrathgate. And we all saw how that turned out.

No...Varian doesn't like the Horde. Can't blame him.

But these mildly founded personal grudges are being kidnapped into slavery, being forced to fight for his life, seeing his father, guardian and best friend dead at Horde hands, his kingdom destroyed, his people massacred and finding out the Forsakens agenda for humanity. You know..."Death to the Living" is not a warcry that Sylvanas disapproves of.

And that is on top of 5 years of a Horde invasion of Ashenvale, Orc encroachment on Dwarven lands and the Forsaken engaging in a war of conquest against the Alliance, during which time he kept the peace, such as it was.

At what point does he get to act in the interest of his people and allies without being seen as an imbecile or emo? Obviously, finding out the Forsaken have been conducting biological experiments on humanity for the past five years isn't enough. Nor is seeing the invasions of Arathi Basin, Warsong Gulch or the valleys of Alterac.

At what point is it OK for him to respond to Horde aggression? Or is it best if he just continues to hold back, as he has doen for the past 6 years or so and let the Horde overrun humanity again?

And please - the "work together to defeat a common enemy" routine got old when the Horde wiped out Alliance forces doing just that.





If Varian Wrynn were right, he would make the decisions that were best for his people. He would negotiate with the Horde, trade Elwynn lumber for Durotar copper, and focus on the Scourge, the Burning Legion, the Old Gods and the Twilight's Hammer, the Naga, the Dark Iron Dwarves, and the Black Dragonflight.


>>>>Apparently, the Horde doesn't need lumber. They are leaving it to rot in Ashenvale. As for the rest...Varian and the Alliance have tried to work with the Horde. They have tried to concentrate on the "common foe". As to the results - have you been to the Broken Front yet?




Instead he's hard-headed, he argues with Garrosh and ignores Thrall (Garrosh is an idiot, but that's an entirely different argument) and Jaina. He holds Thrall accountable for the incident at the Wrathgate, despite the equal measure of casualties sustained on both sides, and the fact that there was a full-scale coup in the Undercity.

>>>And Thrall helped Sylvanas get her city back. This is the Queen who pushed forwrad the developemnt of the new plague, who approves of the Death to the Living message. Who has condoned experimentation on Alliance citizens. Who has actively engaged in warfare with the Alliance, in Silverpine, Hillsbrad, Southshore, Arathor and Tarren Mill. And who was advised up until recently by a dreadlord.

I'm failing to see any reason why Varian should be glad Thrall handed Undercity back to another butcher of humanity.

Thrall made a mistake in accepting the Forsaken into the Horde. He has compounded that mistake by his failure to actually reign in the more warlike elements of his people - those who actually miss the Horde of old.