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5-07-2009 @ 8:21PM
I can't believe that you're being serious.Sports72Xtrm, you claim that the current Horde is identical to the demonic Horde, obviously you've never even encountered this thing called "lore", in this "lore" the demonic horde is distinctly nomadic, bloodthirsty, and destructive, not to mention that they worshiped demons. The current Horde is not nomadic, it's reverted back to shamanism, the orcs have a main city now, they have pig farms, they moved out of the Eastern Kingdoms to a desert so that they wouldn't conflict as much with humans. Sylvanas and the Forsaken were betrayed by Varimithras and Grand Apothecary Putress, don't tell me you've never heard of humans betraying their allies under the influence of a dreadlord *COUGH-SCARLET CRUSADE-COUGH*. Varian is making decisions that are bad for his people by refusing to negotiate with Thrall. That's right, that guy, you knowTHE LEADER OF THE HORDE. Don't give me that Garrosh shit, Garrosh is an imbecile and he fights with Thrall often, once literally. Thrall is a perfectly reasonable person and if Varian could put aside his blind hatred of orcs for a moment, he'd see that.Kyrt:"This racist has held off of war for five years."What crack are you smoking? Varian has just recently (Patch 3.0 actually) gotten his shit back together, and ever since he's been blaming everything that happens internationally from skirmishes to flatulence on the Horde. His foreign policy is in the vein of the "no negotiating, i'm always right" school of thought, and he lets his anger rule his decision making. If Jaina Proudmoore didn't exist, he and Thrall would be at each other's throats (mutual blame here, it takes two).The lumber/copper comment was a reference to the WoW comic, in which negotiations between Thrall and Varian are interrupted, and deteriorate because of, an attack by the Twlight's Hammer, and it's metaphorical rather than literal. However, the problem in Ashenvale is the Warsong clan, yet again. Garrosh and the Warsong clan are a recurring internal problem for the Horde and I anticipate the day when either Thrall or High Overlord Saurfang kick the shit out of Garrosh. One thing that really got me about your reply is your statements about the Undercity. The Undercity is Gnomergan II, it's completely uninhabitable to humans, or pretty much anyone else for that matter, the water seeps with plague (old-school scourge plague, not the new plague). Also, Sylvanas' plague research was (to her knowledge) geared towards creating a potent anti-scourge strategic option.Your comment about "butchers of humanity" amuses me. You seem to assert that humans are entirely without fault in the greater scheme of things in Azeroth, ignoring the fact that a human, Medivh, was responsible for all of the dark portals, humans (the cult of the damned and kel'thuzad) were the main agents of the Lich King in the destruction of Lordaeron and humans are just as easily manipulated, or as willing, to do evil things as all of the other races on Azeroth, case in point:Archimonde, Kil'jaeden- eredar/draeniIllidan, Fandral Staghelm (shut up, he's a villan)- Night ElfMost notably Zul'Jin, but many others too- TrollGul'Dan, Rend Blackhand etc.- OrcMekgineer Thermaplugg (okay, not a lot here, but they're GNOMES)-gnomeScarlet Crusade, Cult of the Damned, Defias, Syndicate, Medivh etc-humanDark Irons, Irons (despite the subsets, i'm calling these dwarves)-dwarvesThe undead list is expansive, but that's expected, the forsaken are the exception, not the rule- UndeadKael'Thas, Kael'Thas again, Illidari Council, more Kael'Thas-Blood ElvesHonestly, every race in Azeroth has some pretty srs cockups in it's past, Dwarves have the War of the Three Hammers, Night Elves blew the continent in half, Humans have the Cult of the Damned, Orcs were controlled by Demons.My issue with Varian is that he's a shallow character, he's angry and emotional and racist and that's about it.I'd be more inclined to like him if he weren't so one-dimensional and didn't attempt to see the world in black and white.Thrall is a compelling, complex, deep character, Varian is a shallow attempt at a badass with anger issues.
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