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4-27-2009 @ 1:10PM
Good luck to the questioner. I played with a couple like that in another MMO, and they almost tore the guild apart. Come to think of it, it could be that exact same couple, considering they left to go to WoW ...
4-27-2009 @ 2:04PM
Ths time to fix this ISN'T now... it was months ago. The emailer let this problem fester and didn't deal with it after it became apparent that she wasn't improving. For anyone in a similar situation you need to deal with it early, not ignore it. That said, boot her from the raid. Tell her husband, privately, what she's been doing wrong and that the raid can't carry her anymore and that she's being removed. He can quit too and probably will... and then you can replace both of them and end up with 2 good players. TLDR: Man up and do the obviously right thing vs writing silly long emails asking someone to tell you what to do.
4-27-2009 @ 3:38PM
@ ClevinsObviously you've had little experience in any sort of leadership role if that is how you would approach this situation.You are right to say that this should have been dealt with months ago, however it wasn't, and now Anonymous is attempting to deal with it with some tact.The situation would be a little different if both the husband and the wife were horrible players, however, one of them is a top raider, the other is dead weight. To say "boot her from the raid. Tell her husband... ...He can quit too and probably will... and then you can replace both of them and end up with 2 good players," is ridiculousTo lose a top raider does more to the guild than just cut one person. There are people that are connected with both members. There are some that will understand, others that won't, there are some that will continue with the guild, there are those that won't. It's the difference between trimming the fat and splitting a guild.Take it from a guild leader who has been through a situation similar to this. All it takes is one raid leader or one officer to make a decision without consulting the rest of the leadership and suddenly 25% of your raiders are gone.@ AnonymousMy advice would be to do what Scott suggested. Failbot is a great add-on for measuring how successful a raid group is. Also, on top of that, speak to the rest of the leadership in the guild. Talk to your other raid leaders, talk to the officers and the GM. If you haven't talked to the other leadership, it is possible they will have some advice that hasn't been mentioned here.Also, after talking to the leadership, and making sure that they have talked with other members of the raid, "sit down" with the couple and explain things to them and the consequences if things don't begin to change.Whatever you do, don't just boot her, that will cause more problems than its worth, but at the same time, be sure to handle this quickly before the drama comes from another source.
4-28-2009 @ 12:53PM
i'd like to assume that the wife had run dungeons at very least. to let her jump right into raids would be a prety ignorant move on anyones part even if it was a guildies wife. i'm leveling an alt with my wife right now and since we're in northrend now i'm trying to get her into some of the dungeons there so she can get the rotations down on the bosses. Once we hit 80 one those toons i'll be able to gauge her performance and suggest whether or not she can get into the 10 mans. although, i guess it depends on how good of a relationship you have with your significant other. if you can't handle things that way, then failbot is a good alternative i suppose, but not quite as efficient...
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