What happens if Algalon isn't defeated?
This week information about the final boss of Ulduar has slowly been revealed, thanks to the guild Wraith on EU-Ysondre. We never got to meet Algalon the Observer on the PTRs so this encounter is one of the most mysterious, both in terms of tactics and of lore.
From what I've seen it's also one of the most gorgeous, but then again, I like stars and floating planets. Algalon himself is an entity composed of stars, a spectral being who is not uncompassionate to the heroes who have come to kill him. He just has a job to do. A job which could see our world being put in serious - even cataclysmic jepoardy.
Needless to say, from here on in, there be SPOILERS about the actual boss fight so read on at your own peril!
Basically it goes like this: Algalon is an ethereal agent of the Titans, Azeroth's creators. He's detected the death of Loken (when Loken said: 'My death heralds the end of the world', he wasn't kidding) and that Yogg-Saron has tried to escape his bindings. When you engage him, he is about to do a scan to determine whether Azeroth needs 'reorganising' by the Pantheon, his Titanic masters. Said scan takes an hour and you have that long to defeat him. If you fail he sends a signal and the fate of Azeroth is sealed.
Except it isn't. Of course, the boss resets and next week you get another chance to try once more. Azeroth (or at least its servers) are always safe but what if they weren't? Karkaras on the US forums posed that very question which CM Nethaera responded with "The results could be cataclysmic."
Mainly because no one has lasted the full hour, we don't know how this fight will pan out or how it will conclude in terms of lore and storyline. When that timer ticks down to zero and some members of a raid are still alive, what happens exactly? Does the 'end' come immediately or is it an empty threat? Deus ex machina territory perhaps? Will the Titans (the Watchers) that were redeemed earlier by the raid group rush in and plead our case to the Pantheon? Will the signal be sent in a blaze of light and a new timer start ticking heralding the end?
Blizzard is never going to shoot itself in the foot by closing down servers after encounters with the Observer go a little south. But it's an interesting concept. What if it wasn't just any boss fight, but one which had some kind of in-game ramifications? Granted we're not talking mass server switch-offs here, but it feels like there needs to be something. I mean, you're facing Algalon, the minion of the beings who created Azeroth. This is huge. Yet while he is -- as of writing -- undefeated, the encounter feels so small even if it is impossibly hard.
If I ever got my way, this encounter would be massive, on a par with the opening of the AQ Gates. After all each of the servers is a copy of Azeroth so a server-wide event feels logical. So, after going through the Ulduar bosses on hard mode and defeating Yoggy, I figure we have the right to make fun of him. Just a little and from a very long distance. But I digress, the promise of the encounter with Algalon is there throughout the whole instance, but what if you couldn't access Algalon immediately, rather -- like AQ -- the entire server had to team together to fulfill some kind of criteria first.
And the encounter itself? Well, that should be just as huge. I'm not talking a ten man raid, or a twenty-five. Not forty man either but more. I'm talking server-wide. Yes, that's a tall order and problematic in terms of the mechanics (just look at Wintergrasp and all the lag issues in there). But in terms of lore, this is a fight for the survival of not just a group of heroes or a faction, but an entire world. It seems apt to suggest that this is a last desperate fight, why shouldn't its people band together to save themselves? It could be a one-time event. A last ditch, carefully planned event to determine the fate of Azeroth. Besides, the world cannot end before we kick the Lich King's arse in 3.3!
If we lose? Well, Algalon would send the signal and his masters would turn up. Hopefully they could be persuaded to listen to the mortal races and, rather than re-organise the world and start anew, they could fight against the Old Gods. Perhaps this encounter could even herald the promise of an encounter with Sargeras in a later expansion. After rezzing it could lead to a new world event, a timer which counts down to the Titans' arrival; there could be special quests to complete such as seeking the aid of the Dragonflights, the redeemed Watchers freed during the instances like Hodir and Freya and the Naaru. Expanding into 3.2, there could be a tournament to find an ambassador, a lone hero from each faction to stand and represent the entire world or a jaunt into Uldum to see if the Titans left a fail safe switch in the event of global apocalypse.
Perhaps some races -- like the Draenei or the Dwarves -- would decide to funnel their energies into finding a new world, either a parallel one or a new world entirely. Much like Outland, this would be accessed via a portal and herald a new expansion. Maybe at the last minute Azeroth could be saved, but it would give us new lands to explore. However, this is highly unlikely given Blizzard's desire to fill in the gaps in as yet unaccessible zones or introduce new areas steeped in lore like the Maelstrom or Undermine or even the Emerald Dream.
If we win, well the Titans might still hear of the death of their servant and come to investigate. Perhaps they will think it's something to do with the stirrings of Yogg-Saron, Perhaps they will seek our aid in their war against their fallen Brother and the Burning Legion. So many 'perhaps'. Loot-wise, there would be a one-time title for every person who took part. 'Saviour of Azeroth' has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
Short of getting inside the heads of World of Warcraft's developers, we're never going to know what they have planned until they announce it. Yet an encounter like this is so rich with promise that it's hard not to let your mind wander and play the 'what if' game. Now we just have to wait for the first brave band of warriors to down the Observer and see what Blizzard have in store for us
From what I've seen it's also one of the most gorgeous, but then again, I like stars and floating planets. Algalon himself is an entity composed of stars, a spectral being who is not uncompassionate to the heroes who have come to kill him. He just has a job to do. A job which could see our world being put in serious - even cataclysmic jepoardy.
Needless to say, from here on in, there be SPOILERS about the actual boss fight so read on at your own peril!
Basically it goes like this: Algalon is an ethereal agent of the Titans, Azeroth's creators. He's detected the death of Loken (when Loken said: 'My death heralds the end of the world', he wasn't kidding) and that Yogg-Saron has tried to escape his bindings. When you engage him, he is about to do a scan to determine whether Azeroth needs 'reorganising' by the Pantheon, his Titanic masters. Said scan takes an hour and you have that long to defeat him. If you fail he sends a signal and the fate of Azeroth is sealed.
Except it isn't. Of course, the boss resets and next week you get another chance to try once more. Azeroth (or at least its servers) are always safe but what if they weren't? Karkaras on the US forums posed that very question which CM Nethaera responded with "The results could be cataclysmic."
Mainly because no one has lasted the full hour, we don't know how this fight will pan out or how it will conclude in terms of lore and storyline. When that timer ticks down to zero and some members of a raid are still alive, what happens exactly? Does the 'end' come immediately or is it an empty threat? Deus ex machina territory perhaps? Will the Titans (the Watchers) that were redeemed earlier by the raid group rush in and plead our case to the Pantheon? Will the signal be sent in a blaze of light and a new timer start ticking heralding the end?
Blizzard is never going to shoot itself in the foot by closing down servers after encounters with the Observer go a little south. But it's an interesting concept. What if it wasn't just any boss fight, but one which had some kind of in-game ramifications? Granted we're not talking mass server switch-offs here, but it feels like there needs to be something. I mean, you're facing Algalon, the minion of the beings who created Azeroth. This is huge. Yet while he is -- as of writing -- undefeated, the encounter feels so small even if it is impossibly hard.
If I ever got my way, this encounter would be massive, on a par with the opening of the AQ Gates. After all each of the servers is a copy of Azeroth so a server-wide event feels logical. So, after going through the Ulduar bosses on hard mode and defeating Yoggy, I figure we have the right to make fun of him. Just a little and from a very long distance. But I digress, the promise of the encounter with Algalon is there throughout the whole instance, but what if you couldn't access Algalon immediately, rather -- like AQ -- the entire server had to team together to fulfill some kind of criteria first.
And the encounter itself? Well, that should be just as huge. I'm not talking a ten man raid, or a twenty-five. Not forty man either but more. I'm talking server-wide. Yes, that's a tall order and problematic in terms of the mechanics (just look at Wintergrasp and all the lag issues in there). But in terms of lore, this is a fight for the survival of not just a group of heroes or a faction, but an entire world. It seems apt to suggest that this is a last desperate fight, why shouldn't its people band together to save themselves? It could be a one-time event. A last ditch, carefully planned event to determine the fate of Azeroth. Besides, the world cannot end before we kick the Lich King's arse in 3.3!
If we lose? Well, Algalon would send the signal and his masters would turn up. Hopefully they could be persuaded to listen to the mortal races and, rather than re-organise the world and start anew, they could fight against the Old Gods. Perhaps this encounter could even herald the promise of an encounter with Sargeras in a later expansion. After rezzing it could lead to a new world event, a timer which counts down to the Titans' arrival; there could be special quests to complete such as seeking the aid of the Dragonflights, the redeemed Watchers freed during the instances like Hodir and Freya and the Naaru. Expanding into 3.2, there could be a tournament to find an ambassador, a lone hero from each faction to stand and represent the entire world or a jaunt into Uldum to see if the Titans left a fail safe switch in the event of global apocalypse.
Perhaps some races -- like the Draenei or the Dwarves -- would decide to funnel their energies into finding a new world, either a parallel one or a new world entirely. Much like Outland, this would be accessed via a portal and herald a new expansion. Maybe at the last minute Azeroth could be saved, but it would give us new lands to explore. However, this is highly unlikely given Blizzard's desire to fill in the gaps in as yet unaccessible zones or introduce new areas steeped in lore like the Maelstrom or Undermine or even the Emerald Dream.
If we win, well the Titans might still hear of the death of their servant and come to investigate. Perhaps they will think it's something to do with the stirrings of Yogg-Saron, Perhaps they will seek our aid in their war against their fallen Brother and the Burning Legion. So many 'perhaps'. Loot-wise, there would be a one-time title for every person who took part. 'Saviour of Azeroth' has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
Short of getting inside the heads of World of Warcraft's developers, we're never going to know what they have planned until they announce it. Yet an encounter like this is so rich with promise that it's hard not to let your mind wander and play the 'what if' game. Now we just have to wait for the first brave band of warriors to down the Observer and see what Blizzard have in store for us
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 4)
Garviel Apr 28th 2009 6:39PM
If Algalon is not defeated, he'll start to send the code, try to log in and see:
"Authentication Servers are down, we are aware of the problem and working to rectify it.
Thank You,
Blizz...er The Titans
"
At which point he'll enrage and start screaming about getting an extra month of time, etc. etc.
Shrike Apr 28th 2009 6:52PM
... Win. XD
sankto Apr 28th 2009 7:57PM
i actually prefer :
"Authentication Servers are down, we are aware of the problem and working to... reorganize it."
Magic Apr 28th 2009 11:23PM
To sankto and the author of this article; the word used by the archivum used to describe what the titans would do to azeroth was "reoriginate," not "reorganize."
druu Apr 28th 2009 6:45PM
yes, i agree. another place like grim botal, hyjal, etc.
even hero's that we have never really seen, like malfurion stormrage and neltharion (deathwing). where are they?
were four years into this and they just sort of forgot about the best parts of the lore and just started writing new stuff without ever explaining the stuff that has happened in the past.
Balius Apr 29th 2009 1:51PM
Deathwing is hiding, probably in Grim Batol. Malfurion is in the Emerald Dream, fighting off some mysterious invasion that we're not invited to help with.
They're not forgotten, they're just not in the game yet.
crsh Apr 28th 2009 6:41PM
I'm afraid you're over-thinking this; boss doesn't go down, nobody
gets loot, and little raiders get to cry themselves to sleep until
next week. The end.
It would be really cool if there were actual effects on the game
world, but hey, it's Blizzard we're talking about here.
Given their recent track record, a world-changing effect would prolly end up in a 3-day outrage and rushed emergency maintenance. Sounds familiar?
Muse Apr 28th 2009 7:00PM
I miss the zombie invasion. :(
Valensword Apr 28th 2009 8:25PM
Same here.. really felt like something was "happening"..
Lesley Smith Apr 29th 2009 4:05AM
I. Hate. Zombies. Seriously I'm zombiephobic, you can check.
Kuri Apr 29th 2009 6:02AM
"Given their recent track record, a world-changing effect would prolly end up in a 3-day outrage and rushed emergency maintenance. Sounds familiar?"
Yeah, it does. The general QQing of the players because something's gone wrong and they don't realise, oddly enough, nothing is perfect.
Hell, if it upsets them that much and are adament that Blizz are doing a rubbish job, hey cancel your subscription. Pop on over to Guild Wars. I hear that's free.
Fierna Apr 28th 2009 6:43PM
I think this would be the same canon issue as killing Illidan. with Maiev. The version that will "have happened" will be the one in which Algalon in his glowy badness is put down and march onward to Icecrown.
sephirah Apr 28th 2009 6:44PM
"What happens if Algalon isn't defeated?"
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Lemons Apr 28th 2009 6:51PM
Server wide? How would that even work? Eventually every1 is going to be fighting this guy constantly it wouldn't be much fun if the entire server had to get up and help somehow...
"Omg, someone engaged Algalon AGAIN, start channeling the moonwells..."
for all intents and purposes the only people who know he's here and what he's doing are the members of the raid that's fighting him, and it's their job, alone, to stop him.
Ferarro Apr 28th 2009 6:58PM
In the end, Algalon would divide by zero and we would all perish in the aftermath.
Wulfkin Apr 29th 2009 6:33AM
Ahhh.... I see what you did there! :P
Aigarius Apr 28th 2009 6:59PM
That would fail to be actually fun for so many people on so many levels, that it would have been the ultimate mistake for Blizzard. Remember the zombie event outcry?
Lore-wise we stop him and 'hack the system' overriding the security mechanisms and taking out future into our own hands. If it weren't for this action, none of the future fights and victories would be possible - Titans would have just reset the world.
That is a world event. It did not end. Be happy. Very happy.
Lacrox Apr 28th 2009 7:48PM
The raid falls, Algalon begins sending the signal to call for the destruction of the World. Then a portal opens, Algalon pauses as he hears the dreadful warcry "LEEERRRROOOYYYY JENKINS!.
That or the Lich King comes through, 2-shots Algalon and turns to the raid "lolz see u bitches in 3.3".
Eisengel Apr 28th 2009 9:11PM
.. or.. how about this... LK comes in and absorbs the magical residue left over after we kill Yoggy, and takes his place as the god of death. This whole watcher fiasco was orchestrated by LK to lure us into Ulduar and weaken/kill Yoggy so LK could take over. Yoggy may actually like that deal, since he'd be freed, through death, from his imprisonment for these last few millenia, and the force of death would be freed to act in Azeroth as it was before the Titan intervention. Besides... what is death to the god of death? Then LK walks in and introduces Algy to the concept of oblivion... and possibly uses the apparatus to instead issue a challenge to Sargeras, for a showdown in the Emerald Dream to decide who will rule Azeroth, the new god of death or the Legion... and then we have to stop both (ruh-roh!).
SuckItTrebek Apr 28th 2009 7:56PM
Affecting change/choice in an MMO=LOL
There will never be an MMO where you can actually affect the world, and certainly not from Blizzard....look at how many people are repulsed by "torture quests" in Lich King, yet not doing them has no effect on the game play. Refusing to torture a character, or kill whales, or what have you has no consequences beyond not continuing the quest line. How much more interesting would it be if you could actively refuse to do some things and have it affect the storyline your character goes down?