What happens if Algalon isn't defeated?
This week information about the final boss of Ulduar has slowly been revealed, thanks to the guild Wraith on EU-Ysondre. We never got to meet Algalon the Observer on the PTRs so this encounter is one of the most mysterious, both in terms of tactics and of lore.
From what I've seen it's also one of the most gorgeous, but then again, I like stars and floating planets. Algalon himself is an entity composed of stars, a spectral being who is not uncompassionate to the heroes who have come to kill him. He just has a job to do. A job which could see our world being put in serious - even cataclysmic jepoardy.
Needless to say, from here on in, there be SPOILERS about the actual boss fight so read on at your own peril!
Basically it goes like this: Algalon is an ethereal agent of the Titans, Azeroth's creators. He's detected the death of Loken (when Loken said: 'My death heralds the end of the world', he wasn't kidding) and that Yogg-Saron has tried to escape his bindings. When you engage him, he is about to do a scan to determine whether Azeroth needs 'reorganising' by the Pantheon, his Titanic masters. Said scan takes an hour and you have that long to defeat him. If you fail he sends a signal and the fate of Azeroth is sealed.
Except it isn't. Of course, the boss resets and next week you get another chance to try once more. Azeroth (or at least its servers) are always safe but what if they weren't? Karkaras on the US forums posed that very question which CM Nethaera responded with "The results could be cataclysmic."
Mainly because no one has lasted the full hour, we don't know how this fight will pan out or how it will conclude in terms of lore and storyline. When that timer ticks down to zero and some members of a raid are still alive, what happens exactly? Does the 'end' come immediately or is it an empty threat? Deus ex machina territory perhaps? Will the Titans (the Watchers) that were redeemed earlier by the raid group rush in and plead our case to the Pantheon? Will the signal be sent in a blaze of light and a new timer start ticking heralding the end?
Blizzard is never going to shoot itself in the foot by closing down servers after encounters with the Observer go a little south. But it's an interesting concept. What if it wasn't just any boss fight, but one which had some kind of in-game ramifications? Granted we're not talking mass server switch-offs here, but it feels like there needs to be something. I mean, you're facing Algalon, the minion of the beings who created Azeroth. This is huge. Yet while he is -- as of writing -- undefeated, the encounter feels so small even if it is impossibly hard.
If I ever got my way, this encounter would be massive, on a par with the opening of the AQ Gates. After all each of the servers is a copy of Azeroth so a server-wide event feels logical. So, after going through the Ulduar bosses on hard mode and defeating Yoggy, I figure we have the right to make fun of him. Just a little and from a very long distance. But I digress, the promise of the encounter with Algalon is there throughout the whole instance, but what if you couldn't access Algalon immediately, rather -- like AQ -- the entire server had to team together to fulfill some kind of criteria first.
And the encounter itself? Well, that should be just as huge. I'm not talking a ten man raid, or a twenty-five. Not forty man either but more. I'm talking server-wide. Yes, that's a tall order and problematic in terms of the mechanics (just look at Wintergrasp and all the lag issues in there). But in terms of lore, this is a fight for the survival of not just a group of heroes or a faction, but an entire world. It seems apt to suggest that this is a last desperate fight, why shouldn't its people band together to save themselves? It could be a one-time event. A last ditch, carefully planned event to determine the fate of Azeroth. Besides, the world cannot end before we kick the Lich King's arse in 3.3!
If we lose? Well, Algalon would send the signal and his masters would turn up. Hopefully they could be persuaded to listen to the mortal races and, rather than re-organise the world and start anew, they could fight against the Old Gods. Perhaps this encounter could even herald the promise of an encounter with Sargeras in a later expansion. After rezzing it could lead to a new world event, a timer which counts down to the Titans' arrival; there could be special quests to complete such as seeking the aid of the Dragonflights, the redeemed Watchers freed during the instances like Hodir and Freya and the Naaru. Expanding into 3.2, there could be a tournament to find an ambassador, a lone hero from each faction to stand and represent the entire world or a jaunt into Uldum to see if the Titans left a fail safe switch in the event of global apocalypse.
Perhaps some races -- like the Draenei or the Dwarves -- would decide to funnel their energies into finding a new world, either a parallel one or a new world entirely. Much like Outland, this would be accessed via a portal and herald a new expansion. Maybe at the last minute Azeroth could be saved, but it would give us new lands to explore. However, this is highly unlikely given Blizzard's desire to fill in the gaps in as yet unaccessible zones or introduce new areas steeped in lore like the Maelstrom or Undermine or even the Emerald Dream.
If we win, well the Titans might still hear of the death of their servant and come to investigate. Perhaps they will think it's something to do with the stirrings of Yogg-Saron, Perhaps they will seek our aid in their war against their fallen Brother and the Burning Legion. So many 'perhaps'. Loot-wise, there would be a one-time title for every person who took part. 'Saviour of Azeroth' has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
Short of getting inside the heads of World of Warcraft's developers, we're never going to know what they have planned until they announce it. Yet an encounter like this is so rich with promise that it's hard not to let your mind wander and play the 'what if' game. Now we just have to wait for the first brave band of warriors to down the Observer and see what Blizzard have in store for us
From what I've seen it's also one of the most gorgeous, but then again, I like stars and floating planets. Algalon himself is an entity composed of stars, a spectral being who is not uncompassionate to the heroes who have come to kill him. He just has a job to do. A job which could see our world being put in serious - even cataclysmic jepoardy.
Needless to say, from here on in, there be SPOILERS about the actual boss fight so read on at your own peril!
Basically it goes like this: Algalon is an ethereal agent of the Titans, Azeroth's creators. He's detected the death of Loken (when Loken said: 'My death heralds the end of the world', he wasn't kidding) and that Yogg-Saron has tried to escape his bindings. When you engage him, he is about to do a scan to determine whether Azeroth needs 'reorganising' by the Pantheon, his Titanic masters. Said scan takes an hour and you have that long to defeat him. If you fail he sends a signal and the fate of Azeroth is sealed.
Except it isn't. Of course, the boss resets and next week you get another chance to try once more. Azeroth (or at least its servers) are always safe but what if they weren't? Karkaras on the US forums posed that very question which CM Nethaera responded with "The results could be cataclysmic."
Mainly because no one has lasted the full hour, we don't know how this fight will pan out or how it will conclude in terms of lore and storyline. When that timer ticks down to zero and some members of a raid are still alive, what happens exactly? Does the 'end' come immediately or is it an empty threat? Deus ex machina territory perhaps? Will the Titans (the Watchers) that were redeemed earlier by the raid group rush in and plead our case to the Pantheon? Will the signal be sent in a blaze of light and a new timer start ticking heralding the end?
Blizzard is never going to shoot itself in the foot by closing down servers after encounters with the Observer go a little south. But it's an interesting concept. What if it wasn't just any boss fight, but one which had some kind of in-game ramifications? Granted we're not talking mass server switch-offs here, but it feels like there needs to be something. I mean, you're facing Algalon, the minion of the beings who created Azeroth. This is huge. Yet while he is -- as of writing -- undefeated, the encounter feels so small even if it is impossibly hard.
If I ever got my way, this encounter would be massive, on a par with the opening of the AQ Gates. After all each of the servers is a copy of Azeroth so a server-wide event feels logical. So, after going through the Ulduar bosses on hard mode and defeating Yoggy, I figure we have the right to make fun of him. Just a little and from a very long distance. But I digress, the promise of the encounter with Algalon is there throughout the whole instance, but what if you couldn't access Algalon immediately, rather -- like AQ -- the entire server had to team together to fulfill some kind of criteria first.
And the encounter itself? Well, that should be just as huge. I'm not talking a ten man raid, or a twenty-five. Not forty man either but more. I'm talking server-wide. Yes, that's a tall order and problematic in terms of the mechanics (just look at Wintergrasp and all the lag issues in there). But in terms of lore, this is a fight for the survival of not just a group of heroes or a faction, but an entire world. It seems apt to suggest that this is a last desperate fight, why shouldn't its people band together to save themselves? It could be a one-time event. A last ditch, carefully planned event to determine the fate of Azeroth. Besides, the world cannot end before we kick the Lich King's arse in 3.3!
If we lose? Well, Algalon would send the signal and his masters would turn up. Hopefully they could be persuaded to listen to the mortal races and, rather than re-organise the world and start anew, they could fight against the Old Gods. Perhaps this encounter could even herald the promise of an encounter with Sargeras in a later expansion. After rezzing it could lead to a new world event, a timer which counts down to the Titans' arrival; there could be special quests to complete such as seeking the aid of the Dragonflights, the redeemed Watchers freed during the instances like Hodir and Freya and the Naaru. Expanding into 3.2, there could be a tournament to find an ambassador, a lone hero from each faction to stand and represent the entire world or a jaunt into Uldum to see if the Titans left a fail safe switch in the event of global apocalypse.
Perhaps some races -- like the Draenei or the Dwarves -- would decide to funnel their energies into finding a new world, either a parallel one or a new world entirely. Much like Outland, this would be accessed via a portal and herald a new expansion. Maybe at the last minute Azeroth could be saved, but it would give us new lands to explore. However, this is highly unlikely given Blizzard's desire to fill in the gaps in as yet unaccessible zones or introduce new areas steeped in lore like the Maelstrom or Undermine or even the Emerald Dream.
If we win, well the Titans might still hear of the death of their servant and come to investigate. Perhaps they will think it's something to do with the stirrings of Yogg-Saron, Perhaps they will seek our aid in their war against their fallen Brother and the Burning Legion. So many 'perhaps'. Loot-wise, there would be a one-time title for every person who took part. 'Saviour of Azeroth' has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
Short of getting inside the heads of World of Warcraft's developers, we're never going to know what they have planned until they announce it. Yet an encounter like this is so rich with promise that it's hard not to let your mind wander and play the 'what if' game. Now we just have to wait for the first brave band of warriors to down the Observer and see what Blizzard have in store for us
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Reader Comments (Page 4 of 4)
Zul Apr 28th 2009 8:01PM
Server wide events don't work anymore, oh well.
What I would like to see though is after you win against Agalon. The message that everything is ok goes through and the Titans think it is suspicious so they send a group of REAL Titans to Azeroth say 3. You will need to fight them through cities like imagine a phased Orgrimmar filled with civilians, and the more civilians that die the closer they get to wiping out a chunk of Azeroth (phased of course). Your guild has to travel throughout Azeroth to major cities and defeat bosses before all the civilians die in the city (so like 1 hour per boss) and the bosses are SWP hard. It would EPIC!
Levica Apr 28th 2009 8:17PM
Spoiler!:
If you win, Algalon gives a pretty epic speech, gives you the alpha code, flips you off and translocates away (kind of like any time you run into the Lich King, lolol u suk /flips you off)
You the return triumphant to Dalaranz where Rhonin-Sue gives another epic speech, and apparently they turn the Violet Citadel into a bigass broadcast antenne. Pump the Volume and broadcast The Signal.
Yayz
CDave Apr 28th 2009 9:32PM
Remember those days in vanilla when people would kite Kazzak into Stormwind and he'd just destroy everything while being healed, and they'd have to reset the server? Yeah, I'd like that to happen again.
Tim Apr 28th 2009 9:08PM
Everything you have here is really good. Except there should be no Gnomes in the entirety of Azeroth. As a Hardcore Warcraft player before WoW, Gnomes should be just like goblins, crazy and flying with super explosions.
I guess that is one thing that could be considered a negititve of the casual swing of the game, a lack of massive and pivital battle. If you paid your $15 just like everyone else, you should expect a battle that is supper cool, not just high end raiding guilds.
Erinorofdarkspear Apr 28th 2009 10:08PM
If you wipe on Algalon, every PC in game dies and has to take res sickness.
shoxwave Apr 28th 2009 11:19PM
i like that server wide events like return of the titans, didn't like the argent tournament dailies cept for the epic loots. lol!
Rai Apr 28th 2009 11:25PM
If the hour expires, Algalon realises that he forgot to bring AAA batteries for his transmitter. Naturally no-one on Azeroth can make them because gold power cores are inferior technology.
So he has to go back and try again next week, when he forgets about them again.
Obviously.
Popkin Apr 28th 2009 11:32PM
Okay, this may be a wild idea but this is what I think should happen.
The Omega code is entered and it just so happens the Dalaran Dance Studio just happens to open around the same time. At the studio you learn how to properly dance so that you and two other people can band all the major cities on Azeroth together so that you can send the meteor or whatever the Titans will use to destroy the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9A8xcbIeTs
Something like that should happen, that's the point I'm trying to make.
bigdever Apr 28th 2009 11:38PM
if algalon will not be defeated then they should put an instance at caverns of time like a futuristic event of 25 or 40 man raid to disrupt the culling of azeroth. that would be good.
Shisho2k Apr 29th 2009 12:46AM
Wouldn't a Titan just be able to come back and put their foot on Yogg's face and stuff him back into the Earth?
james Apr 29th 2009 12:58AM
Anybody think He looks like Dr Manhattan?
Alexzander Apr 29th 2009 5:53AM
Has anyone thought to NOT aggro the guy? I mean he's just trying to send an email, and all these little bugs (players) are messing with him. It'd be one way to see what happens when the timer runs out.
Just a though btw
Josin Apr 29th 2009 8:59AM
I think the "reorganization" could be interesting. What if you fail to kill Algalon, and for a one-week lockout, the raid party is transferred to another server?
It'd take a lot of work on Blizzard's part, and potentially could carry a lot of bugs, but theoretically at least, it could be an interesting concept. The world would be obviously organized differently than the characters remember it.
And then, after a week, they could come back to their home server. (Free of transfer costs, of course.) I think this would provide incentive to do it right, as well as slow progression a bit, which isn't altogether a bad thing.
Chmmr Apr 29th 2009 10:53AM
Yogg mind-controlled or corrupted Loken and most of the northrend baddies. Players killed the baddies, then they will have killed Yogg. I predict that defeating Algalon is a test, it won't kill him. (He'll leave a loot cache like Alexstrasza leaves after Maly.) The test will just show him that Azeroth has capable guardians to protect the planet- as defeating Yogg should prove.
You heard it here, getting Algalon to zero % will just have him go immune, give a speach about how we're noble, drop some epix and return to the stars.
Eric Apr 29th 2009 12:05PM
I'm assuming that the code goes out regardless of defeat or victory against The Observer. He dies, and says something like "You... are... too... late." And then goes poof. Another expansion is born. World of Warcraft: Return of the Titans.
Ronnica Apr 29th 2009 4:38PM
If you lose, Groundhog Day. The world goes black for half a second and suddenly you're waking up in your bed and breakfast again with Sonnie and Cher playing in the background and you have to do it All Over Again.