The Martin Fury scandal: Karatechop reveals all

WoW Insider: Who are you?
Karatechop: I'm Karatechop, the Guild Leader of The Marvel Family on Vek'nilash-US.
There are postings on the net where someone purporting to be Karatechop says they work for Blizzard. I'm assuming this is not the case?
I'm not an employee of Blizzard. I'm not a hacker, I'm just a person who had a pretty tight regular group of people who liked playing WoW.
How did this whole thing start?
One of my guild members, Leroyspeltz, had his account hacked back in December. He was an Officer at the time and whoever hacked his account ravaged the guild bank, which happens. Once Blizzard was able to rescue his account, he noticed several of his toons were gone.
When you say gone? Are we talking deleted or transferred?
According to him, some were deleted and some were transferred to other accounts, but at the time he assumed they had been deleted. He opened a ticket with Blizzard back in December I believe and they never responded.
Things just sat there until sometime in mid-March. We had a looting error in 25 man OS . As the guild leader I handed an item to Leroy by mistake so he immediately opened a ticket so the item would go to the proper player. They resolved that problem then they asked him for more information on this problem he had reported months ago that hadn't been solved. He received some emails from Blizzard detailing what they were sending him, and when he logged in on April 19th all of his characters were back.
So what happened next?
All of them had in-game mail from Blizzard and lots of random items. He had no idea why he was getting them. Most of them seemed to fit Blizzard's usual M.O. for restoring hacked account, tons of low level stuff, stacks of Silverleaf and the like. Blizzard has rarely restored any toon I've seen hacked to its former glory. They seem to give you some random stuff and just leave it in one of these multiple in-game mails. On his level 13 warlock, I believe, was Martin Fury.
When he realized he had Martin Fury and shared that information with you, why not open a ticket immediately?
I was unsure of what it was exactly. Sure, we read the stats, but we didn't even contemplate a ticket.
Why not?
It was in-game mail from Blizzard. We just assumed it was something they sent him. We didn't think it was real. I honestly thought it was something Blizzard gave to one of Leroy's alts for four months of ignoring the problems with his account.
So when did you first use Martin Fury?
On April 20th the guild was in a 10-man Ulduar run. Leroyspeltz was not in my Ulduar group at the time when he opened the mail. We were on Ignis and I brought Leroy into the group. We tried it and it worked.
And you didn't consider this cheating or worry that a GM might notice? You didn't worry you might get into trouble?
No, it came from Blizzard. We were laughing about it. After killing Ignis we went out and reset the raid to heroic. We went back in and killed Flame Leviathan
How many charges did the item have?
When we got it, Martin Fury had 100. We used it fourteen times.
So when did things go wrong?
We had used it on Malygos and 25-man OS earlier in the week and, again, this wasn't, for me anyways, a way to get loot or achievements. This was purely a comedy thing for me. It was funny. We went back to Ulduar with twenty-two people and made several legitimate attempts at Flame Leviathan. This is where I feel really bad. Some of the people we had with us didn't know we had Martin's Fury. Then we engaged and used the item, it was a riot!
I was unable to play over the weekend and didn't check in with my friends. When I tried to login on Tuesday is when I had discovered my account was banned. That's when they started to let me know that we had achieved some world's first, which was also never my intent.
So you hadn't achieved any world firsts?
Some of the people wanted full clears, but I didn't want to take that away from the guilds who had worked so hard to get there. I didn't think we had world firsts, but some people have claimed we had. I also wasn't worried about hiding anything as, again, it was an item sent to us by Blizzard.
Did Blizzard get in touch with you? No GMs mid-instance?
No. They claimed to have sent me an email once I found my account was banned, but this didn't happen either. I had to jump through the hoops to reset my email address with my account banned and open a web form questionnaire.
And your account is still banned?
Yep.
And, during any of this, you never took screenshots?
I'm not that type of player. We never took screen shots that often of anything. We didn't record encounters. Again, it was a group of friends who just had a good time playing the game together
Do you think it's fair that you've been banned?
No, I don't believe banning is fair, especially since this would be my first infraction in the 4+ years I've played the game. But it's Blizzard's game and they are the ones calling the shots, so fair is relative. Up until the bans, I honestly didn't think I was destroying the World of Warcraft.
You must have thought that this item didn't belong in a player's hands even if it came from Blizzard?
I thought it odd, but with the charges I wasn't sure.
Do you expect to get your account back?
No.
Do this bother you? Has it put you off WoW?
Yes, I loved that game. I was never bored with it, I had 159 days of my life on that character.
Are you going to reroll?
I don't believe so. I think I'm going to try something else. Again, this being my first infraction on any level whatsoever it seems like they overreacted. Where they really failed was that they locked the accounts of all my guildies who were online at the time. Not people who had any of those raid IDs mind you, but everyone.
Did many people on your realm know what was going on?
No. Not even the whole guild just the people on the runs. Actually it wasn't even all of them. As I said before I tricked 3 or 4 of them, I thought it was funny.
Who else has been banned as a result? Was it just you and Leeroy? Was it other folks in the raid or your guild?
Everyone in the guild who was online had their accounts locked for twenty four hours, regardless of whether or not they were in the run.
How are they reacting to this?
They aren't happy. Some are upset at me, but most of them have my back on this. We didn't hack the game. We were given a 'You Win' button and it was something we used.
Well thank you for speaking to us.
Thanks for taking the time.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 37)
SaintStryfe Apr 30th 2009 6:37PM
You broke the EULA. You hurt your guild. Blizzard is just following their protocol for cheaters like you. And your little dog-and-pony show is pathetic too.
Melimasth Apr 30th 2009 6:39PM
agreed
Rofllol Apr 30th 2009 6:41PM
Agreed. You knew it was wrong. Your fault. No exceptions.
Lerang Apr 30th 2009 6:42PM
The guy got a freaking Dev item by mistake! He could of done a lot worse damage than what he did! He could of gone into Wintergrasp and killed every horde member in sight!
Instead he kept it private and unfortunately, Blizzard betrayed him. Yes he didn't report the item, that's the only fault I can credit him with.
Other than that this is on Blizzards head.
Narceas Apr 30th 2009 7:15PM
How did he break the EULA? Can you cite specifics?
Kevin Apr 30th 2009 6:43PM
how did he break anything? blizz sent it to him. if i got Martin...whatever, i'd use it too. it's blizz's fault and there not admitting it.
Kakistocracy Apr 30th 2009 6:44PM
Wow, I wonder how many other items blizzard hands out that you can be banned for using...
I was soloing MgT and killed a boss, but it didn't become lootable, so I opened a ticket and after a few days I got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34473 in the mail. I hope I don't get banned for selling it...
Rofllol Apr 30th 2009 6:46PM
Blizzard makes mistakes, everyone makes mistakes.
Bottom line is that he knew it was wrong, abused, it, didn't report it. Basically what he did was akin to taking the ToS (Which i doubt he ever read) And put them through a paper shredder after writing " F U" all over it.
SaintStryfe Apr 30th 2009 6:46PM
That's just more damning to me. He knows if he took it to PVP, he could have been fingered much faster. People would report him right and left.
He didn't keep it private, his achievements were there for everyone to see.
If I find a gun on the ground and shoot someone with it, I can't turn around and say "It's not my gun."
It doesn't matter how he got the shirt, he used it for unfair advantage in the game. He violated the EULA and deserves this. I feel bad for his guildies but they haven't lost anything giant - a few quarters for the days' service. that's all. This was Karate's choice and he chose immorally and incorrectly.
Trogdoro Apr 30th 2009 6:48PM
@SaintStryfe: You are really judgemental for someone who knows as little about the situation as you do.
Lerang Apr 30th 2009 6:51PM
Comparing ending lives and testing out something for the hell of it is pathetic.
No one in their right mind would just randomly shoot someone! It's a game!
And in terms of the EULA, please show me where it says that you cannot use an item given by BLIZZARD?! If you fail to give me evidence of this then your posts are nothing but trolling.
SaintStryfe Apr 30th 2009 6:51PM
Trogdoro: Cheaters get under my skin. I enjoy this game too much to have an exploiting attention whore ruin the experience by getting a bunch of boss kills by misusing an item which he should never have had.
SaintStryfe Apr 30th 2009 6:57PM
Lerang: Terms of Use (Not EULA, my bad). Section 2
"Nonetheless, certain acts go beyond what is "fair" and are considered serious violations of these Terms of Use. Those acts include, but are not necessarily limited to, the following:
(i) Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players;
(ii) Conduct prohibited by the EULA or elsewhere in these Terms of Use; and
(iii) Anything that Blizzard considers contrary to the "essence" of the Game. "
This clearly violates sections 1 and 3 and possibly section 2.
Erin Apr 30th 2009 6:58PM
Whatever SaintStryfe. If Blizzard accidentally sent you an item like this I'm sure you'd never be tempted to use it. I know I'd have a hard time not at least trying it out. "Algarnon here I come!" kind of thing.
Lerang Apr 30th 2009 7:02PM
If you care so much about the game then shouldn't you be going after Gold Farmers, Ninja looters, and ACTUAL hackers than some guy who got in a bit of a mess with a mistaken item?
Please tell me why THIS of all things gets under your skin the most, instead of buying gold, Warriors stealing Priest gear, or people ACTUALLY running programs that make everybody frustrated?
This was simply an isolated incident that got a ton of media coverage. You can see in his Feats of Strength he got no SERVER FIRSTS! so how could he get a World first?
How about you go find the Environmentalists and help them out?
skreeran Apr 30th 2009 7:09PM
This is akin to something that happened to my family.
My father was on medication after he got shot in Afghanistan, and he was sent a certain amount of money to pay for his perscription.
One month, the company that was paying for his medication deposited a larger amount of money than normal. We didn't see it as anything too big, as the numbers varied a litte every month, and with my dad outta commission, we could use the extra cash (I am the oldest of 7 children). It wasn't until later that we found out that the company had meant to deposit the extra money in a different account, and they were demanding the entire amount paid back in full.
Needless to say, we didn't have it, we had spent it on food. It took us almost a year to pay it off, and we didn't even do anything.
Blizzard did this same thing. They made a mistake and used their status as judge, jury and executioner to slap a knee-jerk banhammer onto someone who didn't even cause any damage.
Zeplar Apr 30th 2009 7:10PM
Someone in my guild just got a GM tag accidentally added to his name. We made a ticket. After 4 hours we figured we'd just go have fun.
This is not "hurting" anyone. The zombie event hurt more people than this. They went into an instance, had some laughs. They did not EXPECT to keep the loot or the achievements.
Manatank Apr 30th 2009 7:15PM
I am completely disgusted with any of you who think he has done anything wrong here. Blizzard is completely wrong on this issue if what he says happened is true. Shame on all of you for being such self righteous asses.
jeremy_lucia_mason Apr 30th 2009 7:16PM
SaintStryfe, if you are enjoying the game so much what are you doing here commenting on these forums.
WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING YOUR BELOVED GAME.
ita a game Apr 30th 2009 7:25PM
If thats the case then why isn't Blizz banning ninjas. It's the same thing, peeps work their toons for hours on end, grinding to get gold or whatever to have some ass steal it from the gbank, party, or raid. I'm sure that spoils the game for tons but nothing is ever done about it. The only difference is this makes Blizz look stupid. It's still cheating. Do something about the damn theives why your at it, Blizz!