yeah, it sucks when hand jobs are not "handed out"

I'm all for them adding alternate achievements in place of School of Hard Knocks, but I have to say, I really don't like the idea behind it. I'm almost finished (other than it not counting me capping a flag in EotS for some reason), but I hate it because I just know that I'm ruining the game for people that take PvP more seriously.

"OH HAI, I'M JUST HERE TO GET AN ACHIEVEMENT AND SCREW UP YOUR GAME BEFORE I AFK OUT LOLOL"

Note: I *DO* stay and finish the game, win or lose, so that I feel a little less like a dick, but I'm still not really doing anyone any favors when I step in with 0 resilience.

This is not a hard achievement, it just destroys the battlegrounds for this week as the objectives encourage (and require) selfish playstyle, let's not make battlegrounds even more like that.

Stop hiding behind the guise of a challenge seeker. Everybody knows exactly what makes the vehement defenders of this achievement so mad. You had the time to toil away at this terrible achievement, and you're afraid that if Blizzard takes it away, it'll make you just a little less special.

Don't worry. You're not special, and you probably never will be.

School of Hard Knocks is no challenge. It is time consuming and frustrating, and most importantly, destructive to the overall strategy that guides many of the game's battlegrounds. Why it is still included as part of the meta-achievement is beyond me. Maybe it has something to do with the countless people in these comments that complain so loudly, yet fail to show the self-restraint to avoid something that they find unpleasant.

Umm... I completed it today after hours and hours of grinding AV and WSG and I still think it sucks.

I don't want achievements handed to me but I do want them to be FUN. If the achievements are like labor, then they are poorly designed, period.

AV was the WORST. 40 people all with orphans out going after the same 4 towers to cap. You do the math. I had to respec to give myself a 20% mount speed increase just to guarantee I would be the first one to the tower I was after. Lame, lame, LAME!

You kill me Raaj. "I just know that I'm ruining the game for people that take PvP more seriously." BG PvP is serious business! If it's that serious to people, make a premade and you can avoid all of the achievement monkeys out there.

Hate to break it to you, but some people hate PvP, and don't see where they should be forced to do more PvP than their preferred PvE to get the meta-achievement.