Martin Fury: What would you have done?
So the question is: what would you have done? Lots of players say they wouldn't have touched it, and that it was clearly an item they shouldn't have had. Others say that Karatechop and his guild did what anyone would have done -- it was Blizzard's mistake and they were just taking advantage of it. We'd like to know, so here's a poll: what would you have done if Martin Fury showed up in your mailbox?
| Not touched it at all, it's not my item | |
|---|---|
| Played around with it a bit, maybe killing mobs a few times in the overworld | |
| Saved it for future use, in Icecrown or elsewhere | |
| Headed straight for PvP and rocked Wintergrasp | |
| What Karatechop did: rolled through progression content |
Of course, Karatechop eventually got banned for what he did, but answer that question under the premise that he didn't necessarily know that at the time. And there's another question here: lots of players say that they are surprised Karatechop and his guild didn't open a GM ticket right away -- clearly Blizzard didn't mean to send him the item, and he should have contacted them to get it back. But others aren't so sure. The second question is: no matter what you did with the item, would you have told the GMs about it?
| Yes | |
|---|---|
| No |
Filed under: Items, Polls, Virtual selves, Odds and ends, Blizzard
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Reader Comments (Page 3 of 16)
Killchrono May 1st 2009 11:32PM
@ Tolsimir
It's people like you who are really pissing me off in this situation. I'm not too concerned about the moral ethics about who was right and wrong, because I know where I stand on the issue (I think both parties made big mistakes).
What is getting to me are people like you, with this expection that no-one has restraint enough that they'd report the items if they got it. You expect that everyone would give into temptation and have fun with the item, regarldess whether they thought it was right or wrong. And then people go so far as to say that the people who WOULD report the item in don't know how to have fun, or take things too serious, or are pussies etc.
Just because this isn't the way I play the game doesn't mean you have a right to criticize it or make assumptions of people like me.
awsome May 1st 2009 2:07PM
Come on. If anyone out there found this in their mailbox, of course they would have used it. Blizzard should take away their achievments, but not a ban or permaban like they are doing now.
Jalel May 1st 2009 2:14PM
Everyone keeps talking about how Blizz totally overreacted to this whole situation and that a perma-ban is too harsh a punishment. These people are missing the point. Karatechop has been made an example of. It sucks for him, but I'll tell you this. Regardless of what people may have done with the shirt before, now that this whole escapade has become public I'm sure that no-one in their right mind would ever again try to use an item like that and even if they did, their guildies would be crying foul and sending in tickets to the GM's to avoid a ban of their own. So was the punishment harsh? yes
But it accomplished Blizzards goals, and no-one will be trying anything that dumb anytime soon.
Thebum May 1st 2009 2:15PM
There is a difference between using it, and using it to clear things like hard mode ulduar. I would probably use it against my guildies in duels, and maybe a few outdoor mobs. But nothing more than that.
Michael May 1st 2009 2:19PM
The fact that they used it in 10-man, then reset it to heroic for the sole purpose of using it show to me that there were intentions of self gain. Not only that but the fact that a few days later they were still using it.
The ban was righteous, though the whole guild getting temp bans was overkill IMO.
I would have played around with it, maybe kill some elites, but KNOWING that this item was not intended for me to get leet epics I would have opened a ticket.
Yeng May 1st 2009 2:32PM
Temporary bans are necessarily to do a internal audit and find out if any of those people in the guild gained eq/achievements/etc from the illegal item. Then once they find out who gained what from the fiasco, then they can determine if they will perma-ban or something less harsh like rolling the character back.
AZShizzle May 1st 2009 2:07PM
I would've put on a ticket and then asked them nicely to let me use it in an instance to test things out!
rawr May 1st 2009 2:07PM
I would have opened a ticket and got rid of it. Common sense says there is only one possible outcome to using the thing.
Rayekk May 1st 2009 2:16PM
Well, if that was the case, why even open the ticket? Wouldn't it have been faster, safer and easier to just delete the item? Personally, I think that 99% of players out there, even knowing it was “something they shouldn’t have” would have to at least test it to see if it’s real. I mean, and Epic SHIRT?!? Who knew such a thing even existed?
While Karatechop showed poor judgment, and not much foresight, I think everyone would do something like what he did; maybe just not at that scale.
Yeng May 1st 2009 2:26PM
Yes, you'd be better off just deleting it, but the premise was that Karatechop 'thought' that it a gift from the GM to make up for lost characters/eq. At that point, if its a gift that you think has any chance of being too good be to be true, you should open a ticket, because it probably is.
Helloimbob May 1st 2009 2:07PM
Yeah the first thing I do after I'd noticed it would be open a GM ticket.
Thats after the couple hours it would probably take me to realise its even in my bags...
Mego May 1st 2009 2:48PM
Put it in the bank and then, when I got bored with WoW, raided Ogrimmar solo!
Aenorn May 1st 2009 2:08PM
I understand where both sides are coming from, but if any one of you got this item in the mail (Even those who -say- they'd open a ticket) you'd use it. You know you would.
I think Blizzard should have given him maybe a 24-hour or 3 day ban, take away the gear anyone got from this mishap (Which wasn't much) and take away the achievements if they could. I think it's ridiculous to ban Karatechop for life for this incident.
Branwyn May 1st 2009 4:06PM
Just because YOU would use it doesn't mean everyone would.
Dightkuz May 1st 2009 2:08PM
I would've saved it for a day when I get bored of the game perhaps, and just go wild with it .
Kakistocracy May 1st 2009 3:09PM
Haa ha, that's a clever way to nullify any action blizz could take.
Think it would work on people of the other faction in Dalaran?
Naix May 1st 2009 2:10PM
I would have used my new gift. Not to use gifts is rude.
Demosthenes May 1st 2009 2:10PM
We would nearly all have used it as he did, or at least in a similar manner, im tired of people saying they would do nothing with it.
SeanOr101 May 1st 2009 2:18PM
I can say that I would not have rolled through progression content, as he did. I probably would have tried it out on a few boars outside of SW, but taking it to Ulduar is wrong, he knew it, and I have faith that his Jiminy Cricket was shaking his finger, even if Karate ignored it.
Same deal if I found a huge sack of cash outside by my car or something. I'm not going to go on a spending spree, it's obviously not mine to use. It doesn't matter how you got it, you should do the right thing and turn it in.
Jay in Oregon May 1st 2009 2:35PM
"im tired of people saying they would do nothing with it."
I'm sorry you can't deal with the fact that some people have higher ethical standards than you.