Martin Fury: What would you have done?
So the question is: what would you have done? Lots of players say they wouldn't have touched it, and that it was clearly an item they shouldn't have had. Others say that Karatechop and his guild did what anyone would have done -- it was Blizzard's mistake and they were just taking advantage of it. We'd like to know, so here's a poll: what would you have done if Martin Fury showed up in your mailbox?
| Not touched it at all, it's not my item | |
|---|---|
| Played around with it a bit, maybe killing mobs a few times in the overworld | |
| Saved it for future use, in Icecrown or elsewhere | |
| Headed straight for PvP and rocked Wintergrasp | |
| What Karatechop did: rolled through progression content |
Of course, Karatechop eventually got banned for what he did, but answer that question under the premise that he didn't necessarily know that at the time. And there's another question here: lots of players say that they are surprised Karatechop and his guild didn't open a GM ticket right away -- clearly Blizzard didn't mean to send him the item, and he should have contacted them to get it back. But others aren't so sure. The second question is: no matter what you did with the item, would you have told the GMs about it?
| Yes | |
|---|---|
| No |
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Reader Comments (Page 6 of 16)
george May 1st 2009 2:20PM
This was no different really than exploiting a bug.
Just a different department made the mistake in this instance.
Meira May 1st 2009 2:20PM
I won't lie: I would use it, but i would open a ticket first. It's just too unresistable to have such power in your hands and not use it. Yes, is immoral, but its SO shiny!!!
Probably would use it in a critter to see if the item worked, then I would keep it for defensive/useful situations, like avoiding being gaked in my alts by a 1337Z00R lvl 80 douchebag or being squashed by the (insert wandering elite pain-in-the-asz mob name here), and of course doing those pesky group quests that nobody else wants to do.
Tim May 1st 2009 2:20PM
I'd like to think I'd just let something like that sit there waiting for a GM to respond.
But in all honesty, I'd probably be tempted to mess around with it just a little bit.
No PVP, No current content. Maybe go to Oldworld Azeroth or Outland and mess around with a few elites (nothing involving a quest I have currently), just to see if it had any limits.
If it was taking a few days for them to get back to me, I might consider venturing into an out-of-date raid (AQ, Gruul, BT, something like that just to see what would happen. That's probably when I'd get in some real trouble.
Knowing now just how touchy they are about it? I'd be tempted to delete it immediately, it's not like a GM couldn't just make another.
Braundo May 1st 2009 2:20PM
I would have done it and frapsed the whole thing. Of course, I wouldn't complain when Blizzard banned my account because that would be an obvious consequence. It would still be worth it, though, because that would quite possibly be the ONLY chance anybody would ever get to do that (private servers and etc aside).
Vel May 1st 2009 2:21PM
Simple.
Solo For the Horde.
Kellerune May 1st 2009 2:22PM
I'm really upset that the numbers are so close. Either WoW is full of completely selfish people who don't care about others as long as they get loot, or WoW is full of morons.
In this case, I hope its the latter.
Braundo May 1st 2009 2:25PM
What does rolling through a private instance have to do with "caring about others"?
Obviously he wouldn't be stealing any world firsts as they are OBVIOUSLY not legitimate. Who exactly is he hurting here, again?
Riftheart May 1st 2009 2:27PM
Selfish? LOL
IT'S.
A.
GAME.
Tell me how Karatechop one-shotting Ulduar bosses infringed on your ability to play or enjoy WoW in ANY WAY.
Kellerune May 1st 2009 5:26PM
I called him selfish because he messed with everyone in his guild. He ruined THEIR experience. That is an utterly selfish move. He ruined his guild's experience, and they second he had used the item I would have /gquit immediately.
awsome May 1st 2009 2:23PM
Everyone who thinks that he cheated and is glad that his account got banned is a bitch. I'll take on all you bitches.
Jay in Oregon May 1st 2009 2:45PM
Trash talk from a forum commenter?
That's new.
shiplore May 1st 2009 2:25PM
To be honest, despite playing for 4 years, I've never heard of this item, I probably would have gone to Wowhead to see if I could find out what it was, if I couldn't find it there, I probably would have tried it on a mob, or most likely activated it right at the mailbox...and then filed a ticket..
Pexxle -=SilverHand (RP)=- May 1st 2009 2:37PM
This^
Is most logical, a "shirt with stats?" Interesting whats it do?
But its not the item i wanted/ supposed to get. *open ticket* Why? Those of us aware of news, no any bugs, mistakes, are always undone. ie: Buying PvP gear(bug) for money. All that gear is taken away and bug is fixed.
Now figuring out what its capable of then skipping off to Ulduar, he knew the risks... Either didn't care, or didn't care and couldn't resist.
Pexxle -=SilverHand (RP)=- May 1st 2009 2:40PM
(edit) Actually my memory is foggy the PvP bug was either vendors were giving away FREE Gear or charging like 1 gp No honor points required or something...
VSUReaper May 1st 2009 2:25PM
I prolly would have used it, but not in Ulduar. Thats just asking for trouble. Almost anyone knows, assuming you flip thru some of the achievements, that some of the hard modes are killing the bosses in X amt of seconds. So when hes one shotting bosses.... it had to have dawned on him what was going to happen (not the ban, but the world firsts...)
I would have opened a ticket, but not before making a trip to BT, Hyjal, and Sunwell. I never got a chance to walk into those zones on my warrior (my priest saw the Rage Winterchill fight, but that was it) and just get some cool gear and enjoy the epic raid zone.
I prolly would have told the GM that I spoke with that yeah, I used it, but on old content, and pray to not get in trouble.
Pre 3.0, if we had seen an item with that color of text (the tan/khaki color) it was an instant tip off that it was a GM item. But since BOA items are now using the same color of text, I think many players just dont think about it.
TLDR: I would have opened a ticket, but used it a few times in some T6 content. I dont think he should have been perma-banned. Suspension? Yes, but a ban is to harsh.
VSUReaper May 1st 2009 2:29PM
I personally would like to know Blizzard's stance, from their own mouth, what happened, why did it happen, why they are taking the actions that they did, specifically why they are going to such extreme measures to punish this guy for something that most of us would be tempted to do.
Sure, we got the copy/paste email, but I want an actual statement from Blizz...
wow May 1st 2009 3:29PM
'Everyone is in a furor over'
If by everyone, you mean everyone at WI, then sure. But the thing is, NO ONE ELSE CARES!!!!
I understand people needs to make money, but you guys are milking this beyond belief. It was ok the first time you posted on it, but asinine the 2nd, 3rd, 4th....and it still will be when you post a 5th story about it.
redbasebolt May 1st 2009 2:27PM
I've invested too many hours of my life into my toon for it to be banned for a few hours of godly power.
IMO it wouldn't be worth it to have to start over again.
Rofllol May 1st 2009 2:27PM
Heroics achievements
WG
Chillmaw
tahts all fokes
Kadaan May 1st 2009 2:28PM
People feel too "entitled" to things to know when something is too good to be true. It's why Nigerian scams work. It's why check fraud scams work ("here's a check for $5k! Please deposit it, send us half, and keep the other half!") People are selfish and greedy, and it WILL come back to bite you in the rear (or get your guild banned, in this case.)
Sadly, common sense loses out in the anonymity of the internet.