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5-02-2009 @ 12:24PM
I'm sorry but i have to disagree, if anything this achivement has shown me that in many cases where you cant talk to people, an expression of helping eachother and gratitude can be expressed. In Warsong I went grabbed the flag and gave it to the horde, after all of them had gotten it, 4 followed me back to our base and returned the favour giving all of us the flag and then we chceered waved and waited to start the match till we were all /ready. In AV, EOTS, and AB all the same. Overall this achivement shows you that when were not trying to kill eachother to win a match, there is still another person behind that character, and one that, even though were on opposites sides will lend a helping hand. I'm finished the achivements and overall i hope they introduce more like this for people to learn this. Though I also would like some serious BG related achivements for the seasonal stuff.
5-02-2009 @ 12:32PM
I'm sort of with you, or I at least understand what you mean. My problem, however, is the fact that the battlegrounds are meant for Hodrde/alliance competition. I play battleground's regularly, but I am now unable to get anybody to take it seriously want to win the damn thing. That's what it is about, winning. People may be cooperating with eachother for the achievement, but you ask someone to head to the center or capture and such and such and you get an "lol no." In short, the people who are there for the achievements are not cooperating with the people that are there to play. For the people who actually want to play these battlegrounds...well, they're screwed for the next week.
5-02-2009 @ 3:11PM
You prove my point exactly. Do you realize that the opposing faction helping you runs contrary to the spirit of the Battleground? It's a BATTLEGROUND, not a dance social. It promotes competition amongst teammates and cooperation among enemies. It's conceptually bad design.
5-02-2009 @ 12:40PM
One of my wsg matches did this too. As soon as everybody with an orphan had gotten their achievement, we went back to being cold-blooded killers capping each other's flag.
5-02-2009 @ 3:38PM
Except...that's not the point of battlegrounds. You can do that with world PVP, sure. I've let people cap a tower. I've helped horde with quests before. I've helped them alot. But battlegrounds are ABOUT fighting each other. In trying to 'work together', which is commendable and I like doing it most any other time, with the opposite faction, you are screwing up what the battleground actually IS for those who are there to PVP.And it's not your fault. It's Blizzard's. This was a stupid achievement. I admit, I did a fair bit of trading flags and all that in order to get mine. But that was so I could get out of the actual PVPer's hair faster. You may be helping some other achievement goers out there... but you're actually griefing the PVPers. It's one thin gto whine about PVP effecting PVE or vice versa. It's a whole 'nother can of worms to go into THEIR land (battlegrounds) and ruin it for them for a week.
5-02-2009 @ 3:51PM
Thats great and all, but, battlegrounds are for co-operating with your own side, not with the enemy!"You've just perverted the battlegrounds"If that was the intention, to sow seeds of love and friendship between the horde and alliance during childrens week then yay! what a success.
5-02-2009 @ 10:46PM
So, you got the flag and handed it off to the horde??????¿why?Seriously, why? You care bears with your stupid achievements baffle me.
5-03-2009 @ 12:58AM
I'd heard rumors of BG's where horde and allies worked together to get the achievement. Every one I went into I -attempted- to foster the same atmosphere with lots of /wait, /point @ orphan, /beg, /cheer. etc. What did I get for this effort? Death. Death. and more death. I did finally get the achievement, but the only one where the horde and I worked together was me and a moonkin in a tower in AV. In WSG it was darn right infuriating. At one point I was alone in the flag room with my orphan. I donned my Murloc Costume and ran around emoting..trying to look as non-aggressive as possible...DK walks in. Looks at me. Dead. Takes flag. I rez. Rogue ganks me before I can move anywhere. I just about threw my mouse and keyboard out the window at that one.Even after I got the WSG achievement the horde in my battlegroup were not interested. Rather than abandoning the game the instant I got my flag recap like so many others, I decided to finish out the game. We were losing terribly. I found myself in the horde flag room and there were 4 hordies sitting there with orphans out. I figured, well hell, they're clearly going to win anyway...so I popped down there in stealth...threw a few emotes out to let them know I wasn't sneaking up on them, and popped out a few feet from the flag. I didn't even have a chance to grab the flag and drop it for them...they killed me. How dumb can you get? Didn't even let me grab it so that ONE of them could get the achievement. *shrug* Anyway...that's how it's been pretty much the whole time in my battlegroup.I hated this achievement. I hate pvp and I suck at it. I was only in those BG to get my achievement so I could move on with my life and leave the pvpers alone for the rest of the year. Horribly designed and not at all thought-out.
5-03-2009 @ 3:25AM
Yeah Zach, except you miss the point, asinine behavior from your own team is pretty much the main theme of BGs. What BG have you gone into that your own team hasn't insulted each other and called each other out on chat? OMG, this achievement has brought civility to the BG, just too bad its from the opposing force. I don't see the difference between the asshats this week and the asshats from the rest of the year that play the BGs. BGs (aside from pre-mades) has always been an 'everyone for themselves' event, don't fool yourself.
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