The Queue: Acronymification, FWIW
Welcome back to The Queue, WoW Insider's daily Q&A column where the WoW Insider team answers your questions about the World of Warcraft. Alex Ziebart will be your host today.The last few editions of The Queue had a lot about tanking, and deciding which Heroic is the best Heroic to tank your first time around. Adam said Utgarde Pinnacle was a good training ground, and his opinion was thoroughly stomped upon for being wrong. I have to say, though... Utgarde Pinnacle was my first Wrath heroic as a tank and it worked pretty well. I did a lot of tanking in The Burning Crusade so maybe I'm a little different since I already knew what I was doing, but it wasn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be. Mobs in Utgarde Pinnacle hit really hard, and it taught me to get back into the habit of using my cooldowns properly and not relying completely on my healer to keep me standing.
I won't say Adam was right, but I also won't say he was wrong. Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle and Heroic CoT: Stratholme are the two dungeons that taught me the most about tanking. Teaching myself to remember to use my own cooldowns and mitigation abilities, learning how to pace a group and keep them moving, relearning how to handle different types of mobs. They were a challenge, oh yes, but that's why I learned so much from them. Easier heroics like Violet Hold didn't teach me to do much because you basically nap through the thing. Then again, I am sort of a 'trial by fire' kind of guy. I need to die a few times to figure out whether I'm capable of something or not.
CallMeIrd asked..
"Are they going to change or remove the School of Hard Knocks achievements? It's pretty much impossible for a lot of players to achieve."
I seriously doubt it. Why do I doubt it? Because it's not impossible at all. It's marginally more difficult than the other Children's Week achievements and it's pretty poorly designed, but impossible? Never. That's like saying Hail To The King is impossible. It isn't. Why would it be?
My big pet peeve about School of Hard Knocks is knowing that the achievement (besides Alterac Valley) is easiest to get if you simply play the Battlegrounds as intended. Let them run their course, and you'll probably get a flag cap (or whatever you need) before the match is over. Just go with the flow of battle, be a quick clicker, and you've got it. When everyone is obsessing over the flags, the battleground goes sour and nobody gets their achievement. Don't obsess over the achievement objectives. Play the battlegrounds right. Alterac Valley is the only exception, because holy crap that one was poorly thought out.
This thing usually takes no more than 3-4 hours for most people. That definitely does not strike me as worthy of being removed from a meta.
Quickshiv asked...
"If you see a player with a horrible spec (at level 80) what should you do? I don't mean in raid or even group just running around some times I will inspect someone to see what gear they have if I don't recognize it. If their spec is very bad should I comment in a nice way or just let them go on about their business."
If they're just someone I spotted in the auction house or out in the world at random? Someone I've never grouped with, and don't need to group with? I don't say anything. I don't know them, and they don't know me. I can be as polite as possible and there's a pretty good chance they'll be offended, because I'm basically that stranger that walked up to them on the street to tell them their shirt is ugly. The best you're going to get is a sarcastic, 'Thanks.' The worst you're going to get is a punch in the face.
Sure, once in a blue moon you'll find someone that's appreciative, but I like to avoid alienating dozens of people in between those rare few.
Now, if you feel absolutely compelled to discuss it with someone, what I would probably do is ask if they have any experience with X build, or if they've tried it. By opening a conversation with "X and Y talents are bad" you're going to piss someone off. If you ask someone if they've tried Z talent yet, there's a good chance they'll be less irritated at the unsolicited conversation. They'll say yes or no, and you can strike up discussion from there.
Merlista asked...
"How do you politely bow-out of a group request while not implying the door is closed for later? Its rare I can guarantee uninterrupted time of 3 minutes or more but when I can I really enjoy grouping. Of course I don't join unless I'm virtually guaranteed uninterrupted time. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Its an annoying mouthful "Sorry, can't guarantee my time right now, look me up later?"...Perhaps there's an acronym I haven't learned yet. Thanks!"
I usually just say something like: Appreciate the invite, but I have some stuff going on RL and am going AFK a lot. If you're still around later though, I'd be happy to help!
Which would be ATIBIHSSGORLAAGAFKALIYSALTIBHTH
Hope the acryonym helps, Merlista.
Filed under: Analysis / Opinion, The Queue






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 6)
Quidamtyra May 6th 2009 6:08PM
ATIBIHSSGORLAAGAFKALIYSALTIBHTH
that wins in my book!
Zerounit May 6th 2009 6:41PM
I am fairly certain that is a Deep Ones word.
Jason May 6th 2009 7:42PM
Sounds like a noise my cat makes after eating grass.
Wulfkin May 6th 2009 7:50PM
Surely thats the typed version of the Bloodlust sound?
jbodar May 6th 2009 8:41PM
Oh, my poor brain. You brokeded it.
Magnar May 7th 2009 12:59AM
I guess it doesn't bend that way.
Eisengel May 7th 2009 6:54AM
Macro ftw.
Rowan May 7th 2009 5:49PM
That made me lol in my mouth. Thanks for making my day. :)
Aaron May 6th 2009 6:11PM
hey, is Ulduar just a setback or does it relate to WOTLK major theme the lich king?
Hurode May 6th 2009 6:17PM
Well, Yogg-Saron is the Old God of Death, and since that's more or less what the whole expansion is about (unless you want to argue undeath is the exact opposite), it fits.
At least it's more relevant to the plot or the expansion than, say, Zul'Aman in TBC.
Great Overlord May 6th 2009 6:19PM
in b4 Kael'thas
Kards May 6th 2009 7:41PM
What about Kael'thas? I don't see any sort of correlation to him and the post you replied to.
Complete sentences make life easier, folks.
AyaJulia May 6th 2009 8:28PM
"What about Kael'thas? I don't see any sort of correlation to him and the post you replied to."
Really? You're completely unfamiliar with "Tempest Keep was merely a setback"....? The first sentence of the post you replied to is a Kael'thas reference. >.>
Sunaseni May 6th 2009 9:25PM
Ignoring any themes of death, at the very least, Ulduar was hinted at within the quest lines of Northrend. The Vordrassil in Grizzly Hills was corrupted by Yogg-Saron, and the whole Sons of Hodir questline has you inspecting the keepers to find them missing. Those interested in lore could see that something big was coming up that was unrelated to the Lich King's plans. No such build up was present for Zul'Aman, as far as I know.
Iwanttobeasleep May 6th 2009 10:33PM
There may be something going on between the Lich King and Yogg Saron (there is an implied animosity between the two), or it could just be that there are two great evils in Northrend and a prison of an Old God beats out a secondary Scourge raid. We won't know until Icecrown or possibly after (Titan return maybe?)
Kards May 6th 2009 11:15PM
Kael'thas was still very relevant to the "main" story. He had been a key character for a very long time; not in any way similar to the situation currently in discussion.
Balius May 7th 2009 12:46AM
Arthas is incorporating Saronite into his undead, to unknown purpose. Yogg Saron, meanwhile, is taunting and coercing Arthas' followers. There's some conflict there.
But mostly, we're going into Ulduar as a diversion. Good ol'Brann Bronzebeard went snooping around, discovered the old god's prison in shambles, then ran screaming for help. It wasn't on the "to-do" list before that.
Ttam May 6th 2009 6:17PM
If i see a player, in raid more often than not, with some "questionable choices" i will usually send them a tell starting off with, "Hey i noticed you took X over Y, may i ask why." If they dont have a good reason i would usually follow up with "I would recommend doing Z." I try not to act too offended that they dont know their class very well but rather act like im trying to point out some obvious flaws, i.e. a Combat Rogue not taking Weapon Expertise/Weapon Specialization.
I've been on the receiving end of Criticism like this in BC by a rogue in the top Guild on our server. Unfortunately it was not done very tactfully and i was immediately put on the defensive, feeling a need to defend my decision rather than listening to what the Rogue had to say.
Emorich May 6th 2009 6:13PM
usually when i see someone with a bad spec i ask them why they're specced like that. they usually have an answer of some sort. often they dont know any better, but occasionally they're specced for something specific.
tatsumasa May 6th 2009 6:42PM
i was in a naxx25 run where our guild pug'd a few fills including a moonkin (i'm a moonkin myself). i rarely look at other people's specs or gear but i often do look at other moonkins to see what they are doing differently than myself - solar eclipse as opposed to lunar etc. this guy's talents made me go wtf and his gems and chants were crap - pvp, wrong colors, missing chants, missing gems. as a result, his dps was poor to say the least. after a while i asked him if he'd like some tips at a later time. he was thrilled and said he'd been looking for help.
a day or two later we managed to get together and i talked him through respec'n, letting him know how x related to y but how it would work if he was trying to get z. i went piece by piece through his gear and told him what gems and chants would most benefit him.
when it was all over he informed me that the player who normally plays that character had gone afk after about a minute and his friend had been going 'uh huh' the whole time. i said it didn't matter and i just hoped he took notes for his friend.
i looked him up on the armory a few days later and he had made all of one change to his gems. he was still missing gems, still missing enchants, still had spell penetration (he raids and does not pvp), etc.
tl:dr - this guy had a crappy spec and didn't want to put even the minimum effort into improving his dps because he chose to be a poor player. my help nor anyone else's would ever change that.