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5-11-2009 @ 1:20PM
I think my group is going to use DKP for the fragments. You CAN win every fragment if you want but you won't get jack else unless no one else wants it. I'll take full T8.5 over this hammer personally. We did need before greed before and certain people ended up getting like 12 pieces of offspec in 25 naxx then never raiding again. As much as it pains me to say it, DKP is the way to go for larger raid groups, it assures that people who didn't get loot today, will get loot eventually.
5-11-2009 @ 1:28PM
This just slows down the construction of the hammer for everyone. It's a lot better to focus on building one at a time instead of having the fragments spread across 10 healers.
5-11-2009 @ 1:29PM
But the problem with assigning each shard by DKP is that it will take a LONG time for any one person to get 30 shards. In my guild, one regular healer was picked and he's getting all the shards that drop until he collects 30, and then it will be somebody else's turn. I think he has five or six so far. I'm not sure how they're going to sort it out among healers further down the pecking order, but it was a no-brainer to make him the first, or one of the first few, based on attendance and stuff.
5-11-2009 @ 1:34PM
Val'anyr is paladin lootsall shards should go to my main.
Also I could see giving all the shards to one person with the caveat that they don't get any other loot unless no one else needs it for main spec. It's really unfair to give the shards away for free
5-11-2009 @ 1:35PM
DKP ing the fragments postpones by a lot the moment when someone, anyone, in your raid will complete the mace. What good is having ten people with a tenth of the mace, when one could already have one personn have it fully ? Or taking 5 years to have 10 maces when you could have 1 mace in 6 months instead ?My guild's loot council goes by "whatever helps the raid more", with a bit of fairness thrown in. ie, the one who got the first fragment will get all of them until he's completed his thingy. And it was an officer+ raid lead with very high attendance, who deserved it for effort, for high attendance... and we know he won't stop sowhing up once his mace is complete.
5-11-2009 @ 1:40PM
obarthelemy said...like several people have said, we'll likely have 2 or 3 full sets of shards before we down yogg on hard mode. We got to the General this last week and hope to down him next weekend. We're not terribly hardcore, only raiding 2 nights a week. I would like to raid more but most of the other members don't have the time or don't want to.
5-11-2009 @ 1:44PM
A good and trusty healer, I can see this working out for, but some people g -quit once they have everything they need OR even worse, some healers get "bored" and go do other runs or raids, or worse stop playing... or fill in the blank.
5-11-2009 @ 2:33PM
Um, who says DKP has to be for individual shards? My guild had a DKP bid for the first shard; the guy who won gets all the shards that drop when he's there until he gets his 30. If he's not on a raid, then we bid DKP again for the next shard (and so 2nd priority for finishing the mace.) On the other hand, we all seem to like each other well enough that there's not a ton of drama, and we figure we'll be clearing the dungeon or coming damn close (working on Yogg right now) every week until the next raid comes out, so I guess we all figure we'll get one eventually anyway.
5-11-2009 @ 4:40PM
My guild chose the recipient of the first 30, as well as the 2nd 30(and backup during the first 30 in case the first person wasn't raiding that night). Both have been raiding with the guild for a long time and are excellent healers. Each shard goes for 100DKP(the min bid for any item), but in the end they will pay a total of 3000 DKP for the mace, much more than items ever go for in our raids. As far as I know there was no drama involved, everyone thought it sounded fair and it has been going smoothly. I think we are up to about 10 shards at this point with no hard modes done, and are only up to Thorim in our progression.
5-12-2009 @ 12:05AM
My guild did the first shard by DKP. Thereafter, all shards go to the winner of the first drop, for 5% of their DKP. Also, they are not allowed to bid on any healing weapons until their Val'anyr is completed.
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