To true, My guild was duel running nax, But my guild started long before WoW even hit beta, We started in 1999, yes the guild is 10 years old, in that him we have gone and used 6 vents, 3 websites and 5 board resets. And that just since i been with the guild, i joined about 2001? Yes i cant rember when i joined the guild.

Yes that right the guild is older that the game, and it been about a longer that i been playing MMONRPG's, It started back in Ultima Online, which is 11 yrs old?

We have over 450 members and hit the guild cap more that once, to stop us hitting the cap we have a rule of if that toon not been played more that 1 moth it will be removed, when you do play on that toon again just find a officer to let you back in :) (i never needed to do this yet).

Last time i checked we had over 200 accounts (vai /ginfo?).

We are planning or setting back up the 2nd raid group in the next few weeks when we kill a boss, i cant rember what one since i not been picked for a few weeks :(

So try and say big guilds are dieing out, and i am sure there are other guilds so are like us, and no we are not a raiding guild, we are a social guild that raids and we happen to be in the top 10 for the releam (lol)

*note to self, read before i press add comment*

arrrrgh

P.S. where the edit/remove buttons gone?