Why Varian Wrynn is a fool, part II

2. Having had a free and conscious choice over whether to re-assume both the privileges and responsibilities of kingship, he does not have the right to pursue a personal grudge over the interests of the Stormwind kingdom.
Varian's antagonistic attitude would be more forgivable in a leader if he'd never had the opportunity to be anything other than a king. Hereditary leadership, for example, has been a plague on the government of most countries you could name, because historically a sizable percentage of people born to the job just weren't any good at it.
It's reasonable to forgive a certain amount of angst and even incompetence in someone who didn't go looking for the job but was saddled with it permanently nonetheless. They didn't face an election process, nor did they earn it through honorable service or years of experience -- they just are who they are.That both describes and doesn't describe Varian. Jumping forward to his period as a gladiator in goblin arenas, he finds himself in the position of being able to return to kingship -- or just walk away from it all. He finds the latter choice appealing, which is something he conveniently glosses over in his dialogue during the invasion of the Undercity. It's not the only bit of historical revisionism on his part; he also dumps all responsibility for the existence of the gladiatorial arenas on Thrall, which simply isn't true, on top of being a beautifully ironic accusation to level at someone who was forced to fight in human arenas.
With full knowledge of the life of a king and the life of a gladiator, with the dangers and responsibilities inherent to both, Varian chose to return to kingship. He chose to return to a life where his first priority at all times is the well-being and political interests of the Stormwind kingdom. If he's that determined to be running the Alliance's diplomatic efforts, his immediate secondary concern is the well-being and political interests of the Alliance as a whole.
And -- personal feelings concerning the Horde aside, which are mostly justified (though not always accurate) -- declaring war on a needless front when you're occupied with an existential threat elsewhere is a truly abysmal piece of statecraft.
Were the Dwarves consulted? The Night Elves? The Gnomes or the Draenei? Do any of these people want to be dragged into a fresh conflict with the Horde while Yogg-Saron and Arthas are wholly dedicated to the extermination or enslavement of all life on Azeroth?
In the Dwarves' case we certainly have evidence that Varian's posturing is immensely counterproductive; Brann Bronzebeard (younger brother to Magni and head of the Explorer's League) is the instigator of the summit meeting concerning the threat from Ulduar, and I can't imagine he and Rhonin would have asked both Varian and Thrall to attend if they thought that Yogg-Saron could be handled without help from both factions. Moreover, with both Yogg-Saron and Arthas being threats that necessarily affect both the Alliance and the Horde, it's unfair to expect only one of the two factions to respond. Ulduar is a big problem, and I trust that both Magni and Rhonin conveyed this. It's short-sighted of Varian to overlook the idiocy of a sole faction's involvement, and to ignore that asking only the Alliance to fight and die in Ulduar siphons military resources and personnel that he would not otherwise be forced to deploy (or re-deploy, given that so much of the Alliance is already committed to the war effort against the Scourge).
If his thought process extended beyond his revulsion at the idea of partnering with the Horde, he would recognize the value in splitting the effort more evenly between the two factions. A more crafty or simply Machiavellian leader would push for as much Horde involvement as possible. If you really want to wipe the Horde off the face of the planet, why not get as many of them as possible killed dealing with Yogg-Saron, and then attack? Assuming that Varian's planning on opening fresh hostilities with the Horde on a later date, it's tactically foolish to insist that your mortal enemies be excluded from the cost and casualties associated with Ulduar while you're losing troops.
I fully understand not wanting to work with Garrosh particularly (and Varian and Garrosh exemplify the worst diplomacy of their respective factions, with the tragedy being that each occupies a high-profile position that could accomplish real and lasting harm), but Varian was outraged at the Orcs' very presence before either had the opportunity to speak. Whatever else you might say about them, the Orcs showed up to the meeting per request, and they were prepared to deal with the problem at hand. If Varian is unable to disengage his personal hatred from the need to address a collective and serious threat, then he should acknowledge that he is more likely to act in service to an old grudge than to act in the interests of the Alliance as a whole.
Why none of this might matter
By this point, Thrall and the rest of the Horde leadership know they're dealing with someone who's just waiting (none too patiently) for a more opportune moment to pick a fight.
While that's yet another of Varian's mistakes -- you don't telegraph your intentions to an enemy in advance of your ability to act on them -- it's one that leaves the Horde with an interesting, though equally ghastly, dilemma: do they resign themselves to the eventuality of a full-scale war with the Alliance and prepare to meet it, or do they work to head the conflict off before it even occurs? It's the sort of question that might be more properly asked of a Bronze Dragon if one were interested in a mystical and completely useless answer.Most of this discussion is going to have to take place in a future article, but it's obvious that Thrall does not want war. Nor does the wider Horde leadership, and the Horde's diplomatic and economic relationship with Theramore (in addition to their remarkable self-restraint concerning the Daelin Proudmoore incident) is a strong argument for their ability to get along with the Alliance if circumstances allow it.
However, more reasonable Orcs now know that the Alliance will respond with violence if provoked, and that the definition of "provoked" has changed in a fashion that does not benefit them. The Horde/Alliance truce has existed in an uneasy gray area over the past several years that stopped well short of total war but allowed for minor conflicts between political sub-factions. The Warsong Outriders and the Silverwing Sentinels, for example, fight like junkyard dogs, but it's understood that they're not acting with the explicit consent of the wider Horde and Alliance governing bodies. There are plenty of people within their respective factions who don't agree with their purpose, or may agree with their views concerning the Ashenvale logging operation while disagreeing with their methods. When a player enters Warsong Gulch, they have essentially gone mercenary on behalf of a militant group.

Horde leadership is aware that the possibility of these smaller conflicts (or incidents like it) spiraling into an all-out war is that much greater with Varian's temper providing a new and unwelcome element. Thrall has a great deal on his plate and always has, but he's going to be incredibly sensitive to anything that might be judged by the Alliance as a hostile act. Garrosh's behavior is the most obvious example of an irritant which has to be removed (and it's my dearest hope that Saurfang makes good on his threat and cleaves the little bastard into an early grave**), but he's not the only thing that's been overlooked in the interests of getting a greater goal accomplished. The circumstances that led to the battle to retake the Undercity were a stunning blow to Thrall's confidence concerning the Horde's collective honor. He trusted Sylvanas, and he was betrayed. Depending on your point of view, Sylvanas was -- or wasn't -- a victim as well.
Thrall is the sort of person who, in the running of day-to-day concerns in Orgrimmar on top of running the Horde as a whole, grew accustomed to picking his battles, but he's going to be more vigilant than ever to anything that might undermine his moral authority. Varian wants a fight and has shown his willingess to abandon good sense in pursuit of it; Thrall's interested in avoiding one, is still smarting from a previous lapse in his normally good judgment, and is already aware of Varian's intentions.
Interesting times, as they say.
**Perhaps not surprisingly, Saurfang -- in his rather revealing Warsong Hold conversation with Garrosh -- is 100% correct about the logistics that make military victory possible. Garrosh's ignorance of and/or disregard for the need to establish reliable and efficient supply lines does not bode well for his prospects as a longterm commander. I like this conversation a lot. Not only is it a peek at the nuts and bolts of the Horde's war efforts in Northrend, but it's also rather subtle commentary on the true extent of both Saurfang and Garrosh's real experience in the field. Very nice bit of work there by Blizzard.






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 12)
Gryph667 May 27th 2009 1:19PM
Both articles make solid points. Another instance of Kenobi's "point of view" argument, in that multiple views are "true."
Bitterbal May 27th 2009 1:41PM
I'm already seeing a big mistake in the start of the article. You mention Stormwind not being the largest power within the two main factions. False. It is. Fact. Currently Stormwind holds the largest military of both the Alliance and Horde. You can't compare the dwarves in general to only Stormwind. If so, you may include Theramore and Kul Tiras to humans in general.
Duh..
Johan Forn May 27th 2009 2:00PM
This article is poorly supported by the actual facts surrounding Varian. Take off those Horde fanboy glasses and actually look at the damn lore and story.
thevitruvianman May 27th 2009 2:30PM
"Depending on your point of view, Sylvanas was -- or wasn't -- a victim as well. "
Whilst the article is in general fairly well written, and brings up a lot of fair points, this one is off the mark. Go and read the new Arthas novel, it is made absolutely explicit that Sylvanas was not only totally aware of the actions of the royal alchemists society, but actively encouraged the development of the new plague. There is no 'point of view' to be had here, only the cold hard facts that Sylvanas was the one responsible for what happened at the wrath gate. Her act of convincing Thrall of her innocence is nothing more than manipulation.
Ametrine May 27th 2009 3:21PM
Yes, the "Arthas" novel does state that Sylvanas approves A plague... but from day 1, that concoction's intent was only as a direct weapon against the Scourge and as kind of "don't make us use this" cold-war-style deterrent/threat against the Forsaken's living enemies, chief of which being the Scarlet Crusade.
The fact that Putress and Varimathras went behind the Dark Lady's back in secret and twisted this intended anti-Scourge weapon into one that could destroy all living and undead is no more Sylvanas' fault that blaming a steelworker for creating the bar of steel that someone else turns into the knife that kills your loved ones... it was not something they intended their creation to be used for.
Christoffer May 27th 2009 3:39PM
You know, if the whole Kingdom of Lordaeron was still around we wouldn't have these kinds of issues.. for crying out loud, some cast Resurrection on Terenas and put Arthas in his place!! XD
rdog663 May 27th 2009 5:20PM
Ummm, Amatrine, you obviously didn't pay much attention to the Arthas novel. Sylvanas knew completely that the new plague could kill the living just as it could kill undead. She knew this, and encouraged it because she has some sort of misguided vendetta against the living. She simply manipulated Thrall in order to cover her own ass and get Varien to target him instead of her. On top of that, to the author of this article; you say it is not a defense of the horde, but really it is, and not a very good one at that. To be plain and simple: Thrall is incompetent. His greatest weakness is putting too much trust to those who don't deserve it. Right from the start, he should have noticed that Sylvanas and the Forsaken needed a little observation (if a nation of undead with vengeance on its mind tried to ally with you, would you spot-on trust them?). Plus, what you fail to notice is that the Horde is the instigator. At the Dalaran summons, though Varien did draw his weapon first, it was Garrosh who gave the first insult, then HE attacked Varien. The orcs have long has this attitude (and Thrall is definitely no exception) that they are entitled to a homeland on Azeroth WHEN THEY ARE THE INVADERS! And nobody give me that "They were manipulated" BS and look at the facts: many orcs realized that something was wrong when Ner'zhul said that the ancestors told them to kill the draenei (an event that got the whole snowball rolling) but they did anyway. Some, like Saurfang, are genuinely regretful of that mass genocide and are trying to make peace. I have to say I agree with the guy who wrote the first article in that Saurfang is a much better candidate for leadership of the Horde. Perhaps someone who saw the injustice and is genuinely sorry for it may better convince Varien of peace than a spineless political apologist like Thrall or a narrow-minded zealot with an UNJUSTIFIED (Varien's prejudices are justified) sense of bigotry like Garrosh.
On another point, you say that Varien has no true power of representation. I am sure that such actions would not be going on if the other members of the Alliance knew about this. However, it seems that they do know because they have voiced no objections to his actions.
So here are the points that I have made:
1. Sylvanas is perfectly aware and encourages the RAS's actions and manipulated Thrall to get Varien to be angry with him instead of her.
2. Thrall is not so much a Warchief than a spineless, incompetent, foolish, and apologetic politician.
3. The Horde are the instigators with a sense entitlement to the world they were marooned on.
4. Varien obviously does have the right to represent the Alliance because no one else has spoken against him.
BuzzDX May 27th 2009 5:24PM
"This article is poorly supported by the actual facts surrounding Varian. Take off those Horde fanboy glasses and actually look at the damn lore and story."
Wait, what? You're saying that even though you think it was done poorly, the argument is still supported by ACTUAL facts.
It sounds like you have no clue what you're talking about.
Also, you might want to make sure your not wearing any glasses yourself.
Ferarro May 27th 2009 5:50PM
Varian is the Alliance's Jack Bauer.
KLRMNKY May 27th 2009 6:32PM
Sorry, it got posted in the wrong place.
Ametrine,
Did you read what Sylvanas thought about her new plague?
"Yes, the "Arthas" novel does state that Sylvanas approves A plague... but from day 1, that concoction's intent was only as a direct weapon against the Scourge and as kind of "don't make us use this" cold-war-style deterrent/threat against the Forsaken's living enemies, chief of which being the Scarlet Crusade."
And I quote. Arthas- pg 202 after seeing her plague unleashed on a Forsaken male and Human female.
"At last Arthas, you will pay for what you have done. The humans who spawned such as you shall be slaughtered."
Unless I'm missing something, Sylvanas, based upon her OWN thoughts, not only wants to wipe out the Scourge, but also all of humanity who "spawned" Arthas as her act of revenge for what he did to her. No mention of weapon of last resort, no mention of the Scarlet Crusade, which Arthas was never a member of, so they couldn't have "spawned" him. She is out for revenge, pure and simple. She won't rest until both the Scourge and Humanity lie dead at her feet.
She may or may not have known about the Wrath gate incident, but it's clear that she provided the ammo, Putress and Varimarthas just fired the gun.
jbodar May 27th 2009 7:58PM
@Ferraro
Great comparison, but I hope the writing doesn't get as bad as Season 7. 24 is dead to me now.
Evelinda May 28th 2009 3:23AM
Hey bitter... have any links to sources? i cant remember seeing anywhere that Stormwind has the largest military presence of the alliance factions... There's night elves all over kalimdor, seems like theyre pretty well on top of things. Dwarves everywhere too. Perhaps your making the same mistake you accuse the author of making... maybe youre assuming that every human you see is part of the stormwind military? but thats simply not the case. Sure, you get stormwind rep for doing quests for humans, but that doesnt mean theyre Stormwind humans. The guys in Arathi and Hillsbrad, for example, aren't Stormwind humans... theyre stromgarde humans and lordaeron humans, respectively.
Or maybe youre talking about the 7th Legion, seeing as theyre all over the place in northrend... but the thing about them is, theyre Alliance troops, not stormwind's troops...
And for comparing "dwarves in general to only Stormwind", well, the thing is, almost all of the dwarves you see in the world that are friendly to the alliance ARE ironforge dwarves, the only real exception being the wildhammers in the hinterlands. Magni does, in fact, have authority over pretty much all the dwarves you meet, unlike varian and humans. The dwarves are a very united people, humans are very much not... thats how the alliance started out, after all, as an alliance of human nations, independant of eachother (as they remain to this day), working together against a common threat.
Ven May 28th 2009 11:45AM
What follows is rather long, you've been warned. :p
While Varian is not the picture of perfect leadership, I find the article flawed. I agree that it was a misstep by Blizz to not properly reintroduce Varian to the game, so people could understand his mindset and his history. That alone could make a world of difference in people's perception of him. The only other individual with enough character to actually lead the alliance is a trapped in a dream atm, so to speak.
In any "alliance" of nations there is always one party that rises to that position of leader. Someone has to take the reins, steer the ship, etc. The other members could certainly overrule that leader as he is unofficial, but oftentimes that person rises to that position because they have the willpower to carry it and because, stated aloud or not, they do in fact represent the deeper goals/desires of the collective...
This ties into the issue of Stormwind's sovereignty over the rest of humanity. The nation-states of Stormgarde and Lordaeron are mentioned in the article. The problem here of course is that both no longer exist. Kul Tiris does not factor into the game right now, and is small and intentionally self-isolated. Theramore is in Kalimdor, and is smaller even than Kul Tiris, it's an outpost more than anything. Stormwind is humanity's beacon, and it's the only one they have left.
The article states that "if Varian has more power than the House of Nobles, he's simply incompetent, is indirectly responsible for the existence of the Defias, and has no business representing the Alliance as a whole. Or else he has less power than the House of Nobles (and) he's more a figurehead than an actual statesman and lacks the power to make decisions on behalf of the Stormwind kingdom, let alone the Alliance as a whole." This is flawed, as it insists that the situation remained unchanged between the time of Varian's disappearance and his return. I seem to remember something occurring regarding the broodmother of the black dragonflight during that time... Aside from which, the article also assumes that Varian returned unchanged, that perhaps his captivity did not harden, strengthen, or grow him in some fashion. The issue of reclaiming his kingship isn't even worth the time or words the article gives it. Sorry. No self-respecting king with a love for his people would abandon his responsibiltiy as the article suggests. The article also seems to be under the misconception that Varian's hatred of the Horde and love for his people are not in fact the same emotion.
As for the question of whether the other races were consulted, I reference the second paragraph of this post. The article talks about the meeting we see in the Ulduar trailer. Which I find odd, as it was Garrosh and his purposefully inflammatory comment who instigated the conflict there. This brings us to Thrall. Why the heck he chose to have Garrosh and not Saurfang accompany him to the meeting, who knows. A great weakness of Thrall's is his weak will and waning influence. He has no control over Garrosh, as the trailer shows. He is also always so afraid of doing the wrong thing, that it locks him into inaction. (i.e. Sylvanas) Sylvanas, btw, knew EXACTLY what the plague did. There is no POV issue here anymore, not after what is revealed in the book.
Hamstrungeded May 27th 2009 1:27PM
My god what a great article. This is why I read WoW.com.
This content was written with the level of professionalism and intellect that would rival, or beat, Blizzard Lore-writers.
qoa May 27th 2009 2:08PM
Nice viral marketing comment wowinsider. Not to be a troll, but you know, yeah get over it. You changed your name and added like three features. This kind of stuff is tacky.
Atrocita May 27th 2009 3:17PM
I agree! This article is fabulous. It is really well-thought-out and a wonderful analysis of Wrynn's actions regardless of whether he is right or wrong in his opinions, effectively taking an objective viewpoint of him as a leader instead of siding with one of the factions. Bravo!
Bubsa May 27th 2009 5:42PM
^ We have a winner.
BooDizz May 27th 2009 9:43PM
Agreed!
This is why people come to WoW.com! (Still feels weird not calling is WI).
More articles that actually involve some writing, not just regurgitated MMO-champion stuff.
IvanZephyr May 27th 2009 1:29PM
I find it interesting that you basically condemn Varian for things that any logical person would think as well.
Varian didn't just go "RAWR WE FIGHT KILL HORDE GO!" He's tried on at least two separate occasions to meet with Thrall and discuss peace. The first time he's kidnapped by the Defias and the Black Dragonflight (Which isn't the Horde's fault...just stating that for those who didn't know) and then is forced to fight in Gladiatorial combat.
The second time he shows up and Garona and her Twilight thugs crash the party. Garona - the same person who assassinated Varian's father. Mind controlled, coerced, whatever, would you think any differently? It's quite easy to play backseat quarterback and condemn Varian's mindset, however it's really quite foolish since most of it is logical.
Continuing off of the "RAWR WE FIGHT KILL HORDE GO!" That is NOT how the conflict in Northrend began. Bolvar is killed by Putress' coup at the Wrathgate. Putress...a fellow forsaken like Sylvanas, who are in the Horde. It might not be fair to say "Well since you did this, your organization should be punished" but you have to lay SOME blame with Thrall. He's allowed Sylvanas, the Royal Apothecary Society, and the Forsaken to run around willy-nilly doing whatever the hell they want, including capturing, testing, and torturing Humans, all of which Varian sees when he confronts Putress in Undercity.
But...the Wrathgate has been argued too much...let's move on to ANOTHER example of the Horde striking the Alliance first - The Broken Front. Just because no one in the Horde takes responsibility for the action, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. And it's fairly clear none of the Horde are sad that they basically screwed over both the Horde and Alliance's only chance of gaining a ground foothold in Icecrown.
And then there's the meeting with Rhonin and Jaina. Am I the only one who is finding it funny that the Horde are always the ones who light the fire, then complain when they get burned? Garrosh basically says "Bring it you ass!" and you're all surprised that Varian attacks him?!
The Orcs were responsible for King Llane (Varian's father)'s death, they were responsible for Anduin Lothar (His basically 2nd father)'s death, Stormwind (Varian's HOME) was destroyed by the Orcs, he's forced into gladiator combat (Just like Thrall yes - however all of the OTHER examples of why Varian might be prejudiced against the Horde have not happened to Thrall against the Alliance), and yet despite ALL of this and the stuff I've not mentioned, he STILL AGREES TO MEET WITH THRALL FOR PEACE!
What the hell are you talking about? Varian has shown to be a capable leader...
The ONE AND ONLY thing I will let you have on him is that his reaction after Garrosh taunts him is his response at the end: "Let this Death God take you all..." Or whatever. That might have been a little far, yes. But that is it.
Viewing things from one side and is fail.
Candina@WH May 27th 2009 2:01PM
I think you may have missed the point. The point of the article is that Wynn is not suited to the role he has either chosen or been thrust into.
He is has bad feelings toward the Horde. So what? His personal feeling are irrelevant to what is best for his people.
Both Wynn and Hellscream are ill suited to be leaders of a peaceful and successful people. Both will lead their people into war, just for the sake of war.
Who did what to whom in the past is irrelevant to building your future. Our IRL politicians need to remember that.