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5-31-2009 @ 2:40PM
IP addresses don't lie. People do. Thank you for shedding some much needed light where a certain paladin could not.Btw, I love the image posted at the top of this article. Nice touch. ;)
5-31-2009 @ 2:54PM
Agreed, if the IP evidence showed contacts all over the place, the arguement could be made that there ARE 7 Ferraro's, or they were using Proxy's to cover their tracks.This is very damming evidence that this is one person or a very few amount of people.Unless all 7 of them live in the same house.....
5-31-2009 @ 3:58PM
I believe the comment "Ferraro" made was that there have been 7 different people running the blog over the last 5 1/2 years. However, wowinsiders' IP traces only go back less than a year, and there were different IPs, they were just in a local subnet. Odds are, assuming both "Ferraro" and Wow.com are telling the truth, the comments are from "Ferraro 6" and "Ferraro 7". It's not outside the realm of possibility that the person that "Ferraro 6" would choose to take over would be someone they knew living nearby. wow.com's assumptions about the IP addresses are faulty. They might well be correct, but the logic is unsound.
5-31-2009 @ 4:13PM
"there have been 7 different people running the blog over the last 5 1/2 years"Read the post on Paladin Schmaladin again.It claims the first Ferarro stopped writing in Sept '07. Seven in 5 1/2 years is how you say it to discredit wow.com's IP investigation, but the way I see it is "Six in less than two years." Add to that the fact that the current author claims to have been writing as Ferarro since January, and you have five different people from Sept 07 to Dec 08.I, personally, find it pretty unlikely that wow.com would have records for half that time and only have caught one writer....
5-31-2009 @ 4:18PM
@Dragonfirekai:Noted, except that Ferarro's blog has not been active for 5.5 years. It began on or around July 10, 2007.As someone who has known her since shortly after WoW's launch, I can tell you with certainty that Ferarro is one individual, and that s/he has spun stories like this throughout the past few years. This one was just too big for the individual to handle.
5-31-2009 @ 4:31PM
Everything I said in the article is based upon irrefutable facts contained in our system. Because of privacy concerns we are unable to release the results of the research, only the conclusions and broad statements we can draw from it.Whether or not you choose you accept our statements as truth without seeing the IP logs yourself is your choice. However I've attached my name to this article, and thus my reputation, so I have a very vested interest in ensuring everything here is 100% accurate, which it is.This whole situation also demonstrates why we use real names here at WoW Insider / WoW.com. We are who we are, and everything I write here will be forever attached to me.
5-31-2009 @ 5:29PM
IP addresses do not lie. But sleeping dogs, do.
5-31-2009 @ 5:50PM
Well, it says pretty clearly on the post over at Paladin Schmaladin: "All posts, information, and forums activity were routed through the same IP source."Don't know if that was added in later, but with respect to 'IP addresses don't lie', I think almost everyone has heard of 'Go To My PC?' - and that's just a cheesy way to do it. I'm sure there are ways to spoof wow.com's and other sites IP address recorder.
5-31-2009 @ 5:56PM
@Aelspar:The bit about the routed IP addresses was added after the WoW.com article was posted.
5-31-2009 @ 6:10PM
@JagoexAh, thank you for the clarification. That's an interesting addition; I suppose you could look at it as 'modifying the story so as to fit the facts' or just 'clarifying further as more people take an interest and more facts come out', depending on if you believe in F7 and if she is continuing to obfuscate the situation for... I'm not sure for what sake.I think though, if I worked for Blizz (again, taking what's written currently at face value) and wanted to post insider info on a blog, I sure as hell wouldn't do it without an IP spoofer. Cool blog with 10k+ readers a day or not, this is not the best economy to be getting fired for leaking stuff.That said, I always thought it interesting that around the time WOTLK was getting released, Ferraro was talking all about how she was going to quit the game and go live in Oregon or something, so I kind of lost track of her blog - posts were less frequent and I figured would trickle down to nothing eventually. So I was rather surprised to pick it back up later and see it renewed with lots of activity and analysis. Thanks for the clarification. :)
5-31-2009 @ 7:19PM
IP addresses aren't the full story, however, they get you close. wow.com uses at least 4 browser cookies: userid, votes, RememberAuthorEmail, and reports. If they were able to correlate unique cookies across those IP addresses in that subnet (or by unique cookie alone which would be excellent too), then you could be pretty certain that they were the same person/using the same machine. Kudos to the staff for parsing their logs and bringing cold hard facts to the discussion. another fine reason why i enjoy this blog!
6-01-2009 @ 6:06AM
I'm confused Adam, is what West said true about thorough you were or is that bit Ferraro added about routing everything through the same IP make her story more possible?
6-01-2009 @ 12:13PM
"IP Addresses don't lie"Oops, wrong.An annoyance to my daily line of work is the existence of something called Anonymous Proxy Servers. They can be used for any assortment of tasks that are limited only by one's imagination, but all have one characteristic feature: making your source IP address appear to be something different than what it really is.So, playing devil's advocate, it's entirely possible that a series of people from around the world could be visiting websites and appear to be from the same location.(And not everyone keeps cookies around for longer than the current browser session)What does this mean? You never really know who you're dealing with on the Internet at all. Base your judgements on the content presented (which is hit and miss for this site, but sometimes I'm bored at work), and not on your hopes to get laid by some Internet personality.From a quick reading of the Ferarro blog, it seemed useful.(And just to play devil's advocate again, how do we really know Sarah Townsend really -isn't- Ferarro?)
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