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6-04-2009 @ 5:50PM
Unfortunately, Frosts ideas on a guild hall, while a nice fantasy, are largely unworkable and not at all in fitting with Blizzards game design. I wrote a nice indepth comment on his blog but he seems to have left it forever in "moderation". Oh well. First of all, the price and upkeep are not in keeping with Blizzards design philosophy. Blizzard is aware that 99% of guilds have less than 1k gold in the bank. With their moves in recent years strongly against exclusivity, a guild hall will never cost 20-50k from the outset. It would be free, for a basic, low-quality hall. Certainly large fees could be charged to upgrade it to the highest levels, as per the guild bank tabs, but the hall itself wouldn't be exclusive to wealthy guilds.The upkeep cost, also, is not something Blizzard would ever do, for reasons too numerous to list. Likewise, the portals (to cities and instances) would not happen, neither would professions or class trainers. While it'd be nice to have everything you ever need in once place, Blizzard is not about to destroy 90% of the functionality of the cities. Drink, food and reagent vendors purchasable for guild halls, certainly would be possible though. Of course, a guild hall would include a trophy hall, and would hopefully include a guild-meeting time.. Ie, the guild master (or responsible officers) could set a time each day (once a day) that all guild members get offered a free teleport to the guild hall (as per Battlegrounds summons). Guild meetings ahoy! This would certainly bring some social aspect back to it, especially if there were ways to "show off" stuff there. :) And as from my WHU post.. "A guild hall in Stormwind that roughly resembles a couple of rooms of the Stockades would be the free, beginner guild-hall. A canal-side guild hall? Several thousand gold. A guild hall with balconies overlooking Stormwind harbour and enjoying the sunsets of an evening.. prepare for the 20-50k you mentioned."
6-04-2009 @ 6:17PM
Actually, on reflection, perhaps my post has been left in moderation as I didn't worship him and say how amazing his genius was, like every other post that he's let pass through moderation. Its a shame when blog authors are so self-conscious and unconfident in themselves that they seek to silence any voice which doesn't completely agree with them. :(
6-04-2009 @ 11:02PM
I don't have a lot to comment on in regards to your differences with Frost on his guild hall ideas as you are more than entitled to your opinion but i do take issue with your reply to your own post.Perhaps, if you read his blog, you'd find that not only are there NUMEROUS comments that disagree with Frost or flat out insult him (he took his first real troll comment as a badge of honour) he also has ENTIRE BLOG POSTS where he admits he screwed up after talking with people. Not everyone has the time to stare at a website with baited breath hoping for posts to approve. Maybe he was busy and couldn't approve your post right away? Take your internet martyrdom elsewhere.Like I said, I don't give one whit that you have disagreements with Frost's dreams/ideas for guild houses (although if you Blizz has never put in upkeep in the game before - hello weapon and armour upkeep - or other gold sinks what game have you been playing?) but don't make asinine presumptions because your opinion isn't ready for the world to see in a timely enough manner to suit your ego.
6-05-2009 @ 2:47AM
Thank you for your valued opinion Hrist. Unlike your savage attack on me, I did indicate I was merely musing a possibility I was considering, upon reflection as I said. And I stand by my statement that it is a shame when blog authors react that way to negative comments. I didn't say he was intentionally doing anything of the sort, only that it was one possibility. I believe there's a chance you may be closely related to that blog, to react in such a vile manner to a mere preposition.I do, wholeheartedly, apologise that the only context you were able to draw from any more my comments were negative ones. I promise to :) sprinkle my :) posts with smilie faces :) now on to indicate :) that I do not intend :) any malicous harm. :)And the only reason I reached that conclusion of possibility was that following my post, over the course of four hours, a dozen posts praising the blog author were approved. Even comments as long as mine. Its ironic that only shortly after posting my above remarks, the comment on that blog was then approved - hours after waiting for moderation.Before reacting so hastily in the future, consider there are other possibilites to what a person is thinking and saying than only the manner in which you take it at face value.
6-05-2009 @ 4:14AM
Okay I told myself not to react but sadly didn't workFirst off I think internet message boards aren't always the best place for musing idea's since well it misses nuances. Reading a tone is very hard. Like you took the comment as savage and me as a normal complaint.And now I'm going to do some musing myself. If you expect people to think hard whether or not you meant what they read at face value then maybe you can do the same with the blog author. Besides it was way off topic, just like this post.On topic: I really hope one day we will get some guild housing it's the only feature from Guild Wars I really miss.
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