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6-08-2009 @ 5:11PM
How does this NOT affect PvE? Might be time to ditch this talent for raiding.
6-08-2009 @ 5:14PM
It never worked on 90% of pve mobs/bosses, if you had this talent to begin with your bad.
6-08-2009 @ 5:17PM
“DPS only counts on a boss fight” It doesn’t necessarily influence PVE because the talent doesn’t work on bosses. Sure it can help clear trash, but the idea that trash matters is a philosophy that was buried when Blizzard decided to implement the great AoE patch of 2008 and then subsequently release WotLK. From what I have seen in researching a ret build for my dual specced pally, I don’t see where vindication is a raiding talent anyway. I could be wrong, but just in my experience in trying to build a raid spec.
6-08-2009 @ 5:44PM
Why did you have this talent for raiding, as BOSSES DON'T HAVE STATS.
6-08-2009 @ 6:43PM
Did Vindication cut down the stamina of a raid boss by 20%? I don't think it did.Besides, I think its a good change balance wise, but it isn't going to change the fact that a Paladin's stuns and high burst damage in PvP, in combination with their uber survival abilities, is very overpowered.
6-08-2009 @ 7:33PM
This talent was good for farming mobs (less stamina= less time time to kill stuff), but useless on bosses.
6-08-2009 @ 11:23PM
If they make it so it affects everything including bosses, it might be worth picking up for raids. A nerf to incoming damage will make your tanks like you even more than they already do, what with the dual bubble sacs.Otherwise, it's just as garbage for PvE as it has always been.
6-09-2009 @ 2:08AM
So many lolretards...It works on trash - trash that wipes raids (yeah, except yours - note the correct use of the word "your").After 54 pts in ret and 5 in prot for str, the rest is ret filler w/no real utility. Now there is less. QQ in PvP land wins again.
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