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6-08-2009 @ 5:45PM
The incoming vindication hotfix that is on it’s way to live servers is obviously getting mixed responses from the community, and all I can say is WHAT THE %&$#!I don’t mean it because the talent was so great in a PVE setting, or because Blizzard has arrived at the conclusion that it creates and inherent imbalance in their quest to balance PVP (which will never be balanced), but because paladins are still left with little direction that the other classes seem to be at least somewhat impervious.First there was the exorcism nerf in PVP and not PVE, and now there is this. Add that Blizzard understands that their model to make paladins the smooth damage eating tanks and robbed us of some of our ability to keep up with all the magic damage in WotLK. The philosophy is that we should ideally be able to eat more damage because we can become block capped, and thus avoid/mitigate more damage so we don’t receive the kind of HP pools that DKs and druids have. In an interview this week on the rawrcast, some members of Exodus, one of the top raiding guilds in the world said they preferred DK and druid tanks because of those health pools alone. Couple that with the admitted failed block mechanic and the fact that paladin tanks need another cooldown and it is evident that Blizzard sure as hell doesn’t mind nerfing ret paladins in PVP, but insists on overanalyzing prot paladins in PVE before they are really willing to help them. In that same rawrcast, members of Exodus also said that DK’s could chain their cooldowns for hard mode encounters.So, we have one of the top guilds in the world admitting that DK’s are superior tanks, and we have Blizzard admitting that paladins need some love, and in response, rets get nerfed in PVP?That’s one hell of a class balancing agenda if I do say so myself.http://fatchickstank.blogspot.com/
6-08-2009 @ 7:01PM
DK vs Paladin tanking argument =/= argument over Ret Paladin burst.Did anyone actually read what Bornakk said?"Increasingly it felt like someone playing against a Ret-Pally really only had 60% of their health bar because Vindication took away 20% from the start and then Hammer of Wrath kicked in when they had 20% left. This change was something we could confidently hotfix and would have a minimal to no impact on the PvE side of things."Being able to essentially ignore 40% of someone's health bar, no matter the target, is simply not balanced. A Ret can do 60% of somebody's health in a few GCD's. After that, GG. Being able to instantly reduce the health of someone (not just total health - max health too) is not balanced.
6-08-2009 @ 7:04PM
I never said that the nerf wasn't warranted, what I said is that paladins seem to still be the red headed stepchildren of balance. Take ur time and read slowly next time princess.I agree that vindication is op, but they seem pretty comfortable taking away from paladins when they perform too well, and seem to just say, "ya, we know" when they need help.
6-08-2009 @ 7:18PM
@YokumgangExcept the fact that his math was completely wrong, blowing his analogy out of proportion and perpetuating the misinformation about the talent, because stupid people, like you, think it takes away 20% of a person's Total health when all it takes is 20% of the Stamina.
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