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6-08-2009 @ 1:32PM
Hmm...must not have had a good pally in their main raider group.
6-08-2009 @ 1:35PM
That mace is a healer mace, not a paladin mace.
6-08-2009 @ 1:48PM
It baffles me the insistence that this weapon should go to a tank healer. Why would a paladin need that proc? So more of their holy light is over heal?Give this to an aoe raid healer and suddenly massive portions of the raid are shielded.Both applications are effective, but I actually believe the raid healing application will prevent more wipes than more shielding on a tank.
6-08-2009 @ 1:51PM
I had the same thought as Rawtashk at first - the proc absolutely lends itself to the Paladin healing style. At the same time, though, if they've formed it they probably don't have too much trouble clearing Ulduar hard modes, so perhaps it was more important to them to reward a good all-around healer.
6-08-2009 @ 1:57PM
@ManatankThe reason so many people view it as a Paladin healing weapon is because of the nature of the proc. When the proc goes off, all of your heals *including overhealing* shield the tank with a *stacking* damage shield. So any healer who has it, when the proc occurs, is going to want to turn and spam the crap out of the tank to create the largest possible damage shield. Paladins are good at spamming the crap out of things, and they're probably already on the tank anyway. They're certainly capable of creating the largest amount of shielding during the proc's uptime. Since it's no upgrade over hard mode weapons in any sense other than the proc, it's logical to give the weapon to a tank healer who's going to be throwing big heals if your main goal is to improve the effectiveness of your overall raid. Thus, it's a Paladin weapon *if* improving the raid is your primary consideration.
6-08-2009 @ 2:02PM
@Nick S:And what I'm saying is that I don't understand why people seem to think that buffing tank healing is the most important thing that can be done. What does it achieve? A giant buffer on the tank damage... Okay so what does that do for the raid? I guess it lets that Paladin sit back for a while and do something other than heal the tank (while a boss chews through the massive shield for a bit). Guess which class is the worst at doing something other than healing the tank? If you guessed Paladin, then you win!It's a proc, so it can't be counted on to build a shield before a big hit or anything.
6-08-2009 @ 2:12PM
I'd prefer to see a proc along the lines of "all of your heals shield the affected target for 3% of the healed amount" with shields lasting 30 seconds or more - that'd make the mace universally useful. As it is, the odds that the short-lived shield will be so much as touched on anyone besides the tank are pretty low, whereas a tank will almost always take enough damage to consume even a Paladin-spammed shield, which can be quite large. I can think of cases where the shield would be useful on someone other than the tank, but they're pretty rare - Tympanic Tantrums on XT, perhaps, with a Druid casting WG on the raid. There, it'd boost her WG numbers pretty well.But consider, say, Mimiron. If you get a proc at any time during or near Plasma Blast, it can be a tank-saver. But if you cast that shield on a raid member after they take a Napalm Shell, it will tick down its 8-second time without absorbing much, if any, damage.I don't like the way the proc works, but that's the way it does, nonetheless. I even play a Holy Paladin, and I'd still prefer my fantasy-proc over the one that went live.
6-09-2009 @ 8:27AM
@ Nick S. A shield being absorbed doesn't necessarily mean it's the most efficient way to be used. A tank is going to be taking constant damage, and the healing assignments will take that into account. If you get shield procs you're going to end up with slightly less tank healing when you've already got it covered anyway. AOE heals on the raid will create lots of little bubbles that can be refreshed beyone the 8 sec duration, any new heals will keep the bubbles up as long as the legendary wielding healer still has the buff. Essentially, both have plus points. The only healer who can't use this legendary wep effectively are disc priests (I'm weeping inside), as they just don't have the big numbers. There's a lot of discussion on EJ about the proc, and one thing they do agree with you on; it's not that impressive.
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