Indeed. They also very nearly beat Ensidia to downing Mimiron hard mode after over 500 wipes (!), more than double what Ensidia claimed to have taken to do the encounter the first time.

How about some interviews with members of some of these top guilds WoW.com? You have a whole column for the casual WoW player; give us a look at the other side of the spectrum.

QFT! I'm actually more impressed with Stars than Ensidia or Premonition.

They put a lot more effort, at least imo, into getting this kill with the whole rerolling and all that.

Don't get me wrong, Ensidia and Premonition did good as well, but I'm still more impressed with all the effort Stars put in.


@ Maximize (didn't wanna waste another spot)

I think it's wrong to assume that they would use Ensidias information to down a boss. Not everyone acts like fanboi's who camp on their doorstep to hear their latest news. I realize the US/EU PvE progression fued is always talked about here, but who's to say that any of the Taiwan servers even remotely care or even pay attention to it?

Going with your logic one could argue that all Ensidia did was watched the strats on the bosses they weren't world firsts for. I don't really see that likely, but your statement essentially would support that line of thinking.

They could very well have watched Ensidias video mind you, but trying to discredit their kill without proof just isn't right.

"I'd say that's a pretty amazing accomplishment."

I'd say they need to go outside for a few hours.