Actually, I'm the raid leader for my guild. We are focused on 10 man progression, and on the cusp of getting Mimiron down. We're also an RP Guild, and my character, Elionene, is a Night Elf who detests uncivilized guns, preferring the more elegant Bow.

Then Ignis decided to drop the gun. I had no excuse, it was a fairly good upgrade from the Accursed Bow of the Elite. So to do it proper, I had to write a story about it.

http://elionenesjournal.blogspot.com/2009/05/gun.html

But more to the point, fun is a primary goal of every raid I lead. We have a few hunters (dwarves mostly) who only use guns, and pass on all bows. We have people who only like bows and not guns. Your suggestion, that all that matters is the acquisition of the loot, and that the process of getting the loot does not matter, is foreign to me. If I don't enjoy the process of getting it, why would I enjoy having it? Because once I have it, the only real use for it is help get higher level gear.

Anyway, call us casual, whatever, we raid, we RP, we have fun. It's all good. But my raiders are more than "just means to an end," they're my friends, and we enjoy what we do.

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