I really don't understand all of the complexity in looting. We use a Bottom-up system with loot council (though our raiders usually know where it's going before we give it away), with I.W.I.N. tokens for attendance 80%+ for the previous month. The attendance is curved against the raider who clocks the most hours (that person is always 100% attendance). The token allows players who put in the time and effort to get preferential treatment for loot, but only once a month. When you use it, you roll against anyone else who used theirs, and winner loses the token. We modified the EPGP tracker to give 2 points every 12 mins (10/hour), and raise the Min GP to the max hours raided so far this month by one person. That way, EPGP mod and EPGPweb.com have accurate %'s of attendance. Seems easy enough to do.

For 3 months we've been going like this, and have had near-zero drama. Our overall guild-wide loot iLvL goes up every week, and we keep killing stuff.

I never understood hoarding points, in-fighting and the selfishness that DKP drags along. I can already see people mad about the shroud system because someone only had to sped 10 points as their half vs someone else who had to spend 1000 for the same item. Maybe it's just us casuals that are weird. I don't think anyone in my group cares who gets loot, we all benefit from it, as the weakest link gets the greatest upgrade.

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