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6-17-2009 @ 1:33PM
Once I was runing H-VOA and the raid was not getting the job done. The adds were blowing up before the dps could get them down and wiping the raid.People started to drop out of the raid and since RL fell to me I took charge and did gear checks. It was amazing how many people were not geared for H-VOA and tried to get carried through.I warned the raiders we were tired of wiping and that under geared would be kicked and replaced. All the under geared players complained bitterly when kicked. Saying how can you get gear if you can't raid for the gear.It doesn't work that a needs player to go from greens/blues to valerous or conqueors overnight. The game wasn't designed to require players to carry others through raids. There are heroics to get gear and emblems.If we had one or three shot H-VOA, I would not have cared about the undergeared. But the fact is too many people think they can be carried and it was effecting the raid's performance.
6-17-2009 @ 2:02PM
I remember doing H-VoA one time with some undergeared people. We wiped once and looked at the dps charts. Some warrior was doing 1200 dps. We noticed he had a few heirloom items equipped. We asked him about it and he stated "I was hacked. I can still do leet dps." We kicked him and replaced him. We managed to get by the second time around.Then as soon as we killed the boss, a death knight item dropped. Our raid leader rolled a 1. I guess he was so mad, he ninjaed the item and disconnected. We put in a ticket (whatever good that did) and replaced him to finish Arch.I'll never forget that night. I may only do 2000-3000 dps on all my chars, but sometimes people can be idiots/jerks. I still want a better weapon that doesn't involve 25man Naxx - 25man Ulduar or 1000 games of Arena.
6-17-2009 @ 2:32PM
I was in this exact situation last night. There were a number of undergeared people and none during the last attempt I stayed for did above 3K on Emalon. The only ones willing to "stick it out till the end" were the undergeared doing 1800 dps or less. There was even a druid who (although he had been 80 for 3 weeks) hadn't been in a single heroic, was in mostly quest greens and a few random low level (71 bracers!) blues and cloth leveling shoulders, no enchants. Especially in this case - an obvious alt, he should know better than to try Emalon with that gear. I wish the RL had kicked the under-performing.Epic achievement, a little much for Naxx 10. Superior, sure. Really, as long as your stats match your class and you're gemmed/enchanted properly and have done what you can (heroics/crafted/emblem/rep), I don't care. It's just those that think they can/should be carried through that give pugging a bad name.
6-17-2009 @ 7:53PM
I find it sad when well geared raiders under perform, and subsequently get beaten by undergeared counterparts. None the less it took 2 attempts to get emalon down with a pug.
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