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6-22-2009 @ 11:08AM
Wait, they're not going to convert our saved emblems up to Conquest?
6-22-2009 @ 11:14AM
Why would you want that since you have to buy epic gems with EoH anyway ? :P
Why would they do that with instances? To give everyone 5 slots worth of top tier items on day one...
6-22-2009 @ 11:16AM
Heh, that'd be great for the 100s of worthless heroism/valor emblems I have.
6-22-2009 @ 11:18AM
If that were the case....everyone would just farm heroics right now and when the patch hit, we'd all be insta-geared.
6-22-2009 @ 11:55AM
@Retropally:*Former top tier.
6-22-2009 @ 11:56AM
I have something like 200 saved and just decided to level the alts until the patch because all those badges are worthless now and so are Heroics until you can get conquest badges.The question is valid, as it seems stupid to tell everyone the change is coming, make the current badges even more useless than they are now, and then tell them that from now until patch day (if you have all badge gear you need/want) that all those heroics are even more useless because the only thing you will be buying with them are frozen orbs since the new epic gems will be coming out as well.If the badges are all equal on patch day, it would make sense to convert them than to have countless players with inventories they are never going to exhaust.
6-22-2009 @ 12:10PM
They're not up-converting badges. Read the notes.
6-22-2009 @ 7:32PM
@Robert- It is my understanding that they are adding new things to buy with EoH, and on top of that, since they don't take up a spot in your inventory, I don't see why having them is a problem.
6-22-2009 @ 1:17PM
It's a damn good thing they're not converting Heroisms to Conquest come 3.2, and anyone who believes otherwise needs to step back and actually consider how this would affect progression. Come 3.2, Heroics and old raids are becoming equivalent to Ulduar in terms of gear (at least for a few pieces). I have no problem with this, as they're releasing Tier 9 gear via the Coliseum.If, however, they were to convert other badges to Conquests come 3.2, that would make Heroics and other raids equal to Ulduar now. People (including people who never even set foot in Ulduar) would just farm Heroics now for insta-226 gear when the patch drops. That's not progression, that's making early lvl 80 content equal to progression content, and that is not how this game works.I think the 3.2 Emblem change (as it is now) is an excellent decision on Blizzard's part and will help alleviate some of the gear gap that new 80s find themselves facing around this time. Converting badges to Conquests would just be messed up though.
6-22-2009 @ 5:26PM
I note that many are saying the old emblems are useless now. Remember, you can always buy BoE bracers with the emblems of valor, and you can either sell them or give them to an alt or friend. They're still decent quality. You can use EoH to buy frozen orbs, which are still useful, especially for JCs.
6-22-2009 @ 7:30PM
Meh, the conquest changes aren't as big as everyone thinks.I'm an average raider - ie, if you looked at me 2 months before ulduar came out I'd have mostly BiS, but nothing special now days. I have 1 piece of 8.5 I can't use due to set bonus issues but meh.With the EoC becoming the standard, even if my 150 odd badges I have on me currently all got changed, I'd buy the 2 set pieces and that would be it - the rest are sidegrades even with the higher ilvl. The non-tier pants for instance have like 112 stamina on them.. I'm a rogue! I don't CARE about stamina and it's chewing up the item budget.The other items in there are much the same. The EoC badge system is basically thus: if you can't get the upgrade any other way, it's better then nothing (minus the tier pieces of course).. What it'll mostly do IMO is kill the market for runed orbs - sell all you have ASAP cause those things are going to drop down to 100g a piece within a month or 2 of 3.2... even if they don't, they sure won't be 1k+ anymore. Cash in while you still can!Personally I'll just clear naxx 10 (3 hours, 15 badges), naxx 25 (4 hours, another 15), OS 10 and 25 (, VoA 10 and 25 and in the space of one week I'll have almost 40 badges just from raids.. run Gun'Drak and a couple other heroics with my raid (less then an hour per instance) for a few days and there's one set piece.. do it again next week, or just run the heroics a few more times and there's my second. Then I'll just run the daily heroic for the triumph badges to build up.So yeah, it'll get me a bit more damage but it's nothing spectacularly game changing. Good move from blizz IMO.
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