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6-23-2009 @ 4:13PM
50 attempts at a raid encounter? Im going to go out on a Limb and say that loot will probably work something like0 wipes BIS gear or +2 items in 25 man and mount1-10 wipes Really good Gear or +2 items no mount11-25 Decent Gear +1 item no mount26+ passable GearWhat I don't quite get is will downing zero bosses save you to the raid? Also, what pug would stay in raid together 20+ wipes.
6-23-2009 @ 4:28PM
"Also, what pug would stay in raid together 20+ wipes."The wipe attempts are hard mode only. So, a better question is "What pug would attempt hard mode in the first place?"Assumedly, nonheroic difficulty will still be semi-puggable like Ulduar if you do it on Easy Mode.
6-23-2009 @ 4:29PM
I agree with your loot/attempt ratios.Seems like a lot of attempts for one raid. But I do recall wiping on yogg the first night we tried him at least 15-20 times. But your locked to the instance for a whole week so you can easily make copious amounts of attempts. And since there is 5 bosses, that means you'll have more chances to wipe on each boss. AND given the fact that gearing up will be made fairly easier I think the encounters will be far less forgiving.....equating to more "wipe it up guys, release and get back in here"
6-23-2009 @ 4:57PM
i wonder if each death in the group takes one whatever from the chest making it more like an undying/immortal thing...
6-23-2009 @ 4:56PM
The 50 may be a placeholder while Blizz tries to figure out what is reasonable. They did the same thing with the Ulduar achievements during the PTR - many were unreasonably long or short until Blizz had an idea of how long it would take on live.
6-23-2009 @ 5:18PM
@greenya that is most likely the case. we should take details like that with a grain of salt.
6-23-2009 @ 7:32PM
do we even know for sure that this will be a resetting counter? Maybe its 50 tribute attempts. Period. One-shot it, or there will just always be gear you can't obtain. That would suck in a way, but how happy would the hardcore crowd be that there is something that takes actual skill to obtain and not just brute force? I personally won't see what's in the chests for these special runs, but its a kinda cool idea.
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