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6-27-2009 @ 6:01PM
I've been watching this stream since Monday of last week, and I have to say that Tim is not specifically doing the stream to sell or promote his software; as has been stated, he will stop and explain what the software can do when asked direct questions.I have seen the number of people watching grow from 100 people or so, throughout the stream event which can last many hours with viewer numbers very stable with this Friday's cast reaching a peak of 865 people! He is putting on a quite a show for people. So far I have watched him do many instances, such as SM (all sides), RFC, Uldaman, Marudon sometimes running BGs in between. Throughout the cast, there is a constant flow of new viewers asking the same questions, most commonly 'what is multiboxing?' or 'hey Tim, what software are you using to do this stream?' or '..to multibox'. He has never stopped what he is doing just to promote anything, he does take the time though to answer questions people have; and this often requires him actually opening up the pwnboxer UI and showing what it does. Its great he takes the time do this, it makes it a fun experience to watch. I am not affiliated with Mr. Sullivan in anyway, in fact, I do not even play WoW anymore (I have in the past though). Watching his stream, and looking at how easy his software is to use, I have been thinking about activating my account again.Another thing Tim makes clear is the legal issues surrounding multiboxing. This is an important issue, which he goes into detail about but simply put, it is perfectly legal to multibox WoW.One must check the source of any mud-slinging at Tim about his stream or his software, its quite possible those doing so actually are employed by rival multiboxing companies.Clearly Tim has a good product here, he really enjoys multiboxing, loves WoW and has good information for people about all this stuff. My overall conclusion is 'go Timmeh'!
6-28-2009 @ 1:16AM
I'm an Evil Multi-Boxer™. I learned how to do it by trial and error, and by reading many sites about it, including Dual-boxing.com. I was there during the drama with Tim Sullivan, and the story told here is essentially true: he broke the forum rules, tried to bypass the forum rules after being told not to, and was selling software that was not 100% certified as safe by Blizzard - something multiboxers care the most about.I've watched Tim's stream - it's fine, his software has some nice features,( and some I have my doubts about, in terms of their legality), and he's very cagey about answering some questions regarding it. He's also gone on rants about dual-boxing.com, and whenever *other* software is discussed, or asked about, he *always* talks about his software, and discourages the use of other software - I heard him tell the audience one software package would get people banned. Obviously, this streaming effort is one long commercial for his software - which is fine - but don't attack Dual-boxing.com because they had a bad experience with him - they have every right to bring that light, and let people make their own judgements. I don't know Tim, and while he strikes me as a nice enough guy, his marketing techniques leave a lot to be desired, especially in long-established communities like DB.com.And, as a long-time member and poster of Dual-boxing.com, I have NEVER ONCE seen Keyclone favored over any other solution, and EVERY piece of software and hardware is freely discussed, except the ones that break TOS. Even the ones that skirt the issue, like the keyboards with macro and pause abilities, which can and will get you banned, are allowed to be discussed, as long as the bad stuff is pointed out and players warned to not use the features that will get them banned. Dual-boxing.com is a repository of hundreds of players, with deep discussions on every topic, and it's an open and FREE community to join and participate in. Yes, there is drama occasionally, but for the most part, the mods and members there are friendly, helpful, and ONLY ban people when they refuse to follow the simple rules. The site remains free, and the owner goes out of his way to make it a comfortable and open place to discuss our hobby. I would hate to see someone like Tim become the "face' of multiboxing, when others have spent years refining and developing the tactics and techniques, and all of that work being unread because of unfounded accusations here. He can build his own community, but it should'nt be at the cost of others.If the mods are being paid to promote Keyclone, they're doing a horrible job of it, and it doesn't fit Keyclone the author's style. He has always been above board and honest in all of his dealings on that site, and he's a nice guy, too - as are all of the other developers there, like the author of Jamba, a very handy and almost required add-on suite for multiboxing.Again, Tim is free to sell and promote his software, but his methods leave a lot to be desired. (And yes I know what I'm talking about, I've worked in marketing for over 20 years) His stream is essentially one long commercial for his software - which is fine - but there are more solutions out there, free and paid, and if you are interested in multiboxing, I urge you to ignore the attacks here (which may or may not be who they claim to be, when it's against DB.com), and research all of the solutions out there, and keep an open mind, and keep in mind who has what agenda, and why. DB.com isn't out to get" Tim, the mods simply feel that they needed to warn people of their experiences with him.
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