Patch 3.2 PTR: Tauren Druid conversation may reveal lore and expansion secrets
Reader Chad forwarded us this screen shot of a conversation that takes place over on Elder rise in Thunder Bluff between two Tauren on the patch 3.2 PTR. Apparently it actually begins with a new quest by the Dalaran Portals, as pointed out in this thread at Scrolls of Lore, and while the quest leads nowhere, you do get to hear the linked dialogue. In it, Aponi Brightmane, a wounded warrior who wishes to return the front lines in Northrend, and Tahu Sagewind, a Druid, speak together about the history of Druidism, the moon, and the sun. They speak of Elune, whom they know as Mu'sha, one of the eyes of the the Earth Mother. They mention that it seems strange that if Tauren were the first Druids as their legends claim, that all Hamuul Runetotem teaches is the moon power of the Night Elves. Tahu wonders if Druids themselves, because of this, are out of balance. The idea segues back into the idea of the world out of balance due to the influence of the Scourge, wondering if sitting idle in Thunder Bluff is really a good idea when the Northern front is so bleak, wondering if balance must needs to be returned by action.
This whole conversation has started the lore loving community of WoW buzzing, as you can see in part from the Scrolls of Lore thread. There's quite a few theories on what this conversation could herald, some more outlandish than others, but most of them pretty fun to mull over.
First, there's the idea that this could herald some sort of change for Tauren Druids. While Blizzard mostly homogenizes classes even between factions, some are wondering if this is some change for the Druid class. Maybe Taurens will find their "own path" of Druidism based on the sun, the other eye of the Earthmother and the "balance" for the moon. It would be mostly cosmetic, replacing Moonfire with Sunfire and the like, but it might lead to a deeper understanding of Tauren lore and world lore in general as Tauren return to the "original form" of Druidism.
Of course, some people are a bit uncomfortable with the idea of the Tauren truly being the first Druids. In the past, blue posters have suggested Tauren mythology on the subject might be off, and that Malfurion, as established in other lore, truly was the first Druid. Retconning one of the great accomplishments of Night Elven culture does seem a bit unfair to them, to be fair, but retcons are a fact of life with Warcraft mythology.
There's also some more radical ideas about what this could mean for classes. Some people wonder if the sun, called An'she by the Tauren, could actually be an embodiment of the Light, and by discovering it, we could see Aponi become the first Tauren Paladin, perhaps triggering a wider, more permissive class spread for all races. Others wonder if the Sun, being a primary symbol of the Blood Elves, could lead to the Blood Elf Druids so many have wanted since that boss in The Botanica.
Of course, at the same time, people point out that the Light is already the balance to Shadow, so making it the sun and assigning it to balance the moon might be a bit much, especially since Druidic magic generally seems more primal and chaotic than holy magic.
This could also, some say, point to a new expansion and a new class altogether. This conversation, when people are already looking forward to the next step after Arthas dies, could be pointing to a Druid-specific expansion, such as the Emerald Dream, where Tahu could become the first Druid of the Sun, the new hero class, or at least the major representative of the Tauren in the dream.
I'm still thinking the Maelstrom is our most likely candidate for the next expansion, but then again, the Emerald Dream could always be a set of zones or a dual-focus of the lore in the Maelstrom expansion, especially if they decide to connect the Nightmare to, say, the Naga looking to get revenge on the Night Elves for their defeat during the War of the Ancients. But even then, I don't know that making a near-copy of an existing class is the way to implement a new class. It'll just make all the existing Druids feel a bit inferior for being the "old and busted" version of Druids. So I don't know that this is pointing to a new class, at least not one that is too Druid-like.
Of course, one of the simpler explanations, and one that might be my favorite, is that this simply foreshadows a move by the Druids to fight Arthas in patch 3.3. The Cenarion Circle has been sorely underrepresented in Wrath of the Lich King. Their biggest presence is in the D.E.H.T.A, a small group of fanatics who are primarily part of an elaborate inside joke about Hemet Nesingwary's animal killing quests more than anything serious. We've seen novel descriptions and comic book illustrations of Druids calling forth the true wrath of the wild to summon terrifying storms or cause trees and roots to grow instantly and overtake demons or choke cave entrances. The Cenarion Circle could take an active hand in the battle against Arthas in a similar way, and with Tahu sounding anxious to get to the front lines all of a sudden, we could see him out there at the head of a group of Druids, tearing down the walls of the Icecrown Citadel with the power of nature.
Whatever the true meaning of this conversation, and no matter what it might foreshadow, it's definitely a lot of fun to speculate, and seems to point to some pretty juicy happenings down the line, no matter what their nature. With any luck, maybe we'll see the quest line for these 2 character extend, or maybe even see a Night Elf/Alliance equivalent conversation that will provide more insight from another angle. If nothing else, I have a very good feeling we'll see more from Aponi and Tahu in patch 3.3.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 8)
Yeng Jun 28th 2009 9:09PM
"Tthe idea segues back into the idea of the world"
say what now?
Preston Jun 29th 2009 1:54AM
I think this article is overthinking a simple background filler NPC conversation. There aren't going to be a bunch of druid class changes because of this.
Nathanyel Jun 29th 2009 5:22AM
The idea segues back into the idea of the world out of balance due to the influence of the Scourge, [...]
If the article was incomplete when you wrote this, sorry for dissing ya.
RacoonKnight Jun 28th 2009 9:14PM
Gnome Druids!
devilsei Jun 28th 2009 9:22PM
Ooooh.... I think you mean
"The Secret Society of Techno Druidic Gnomes for the Improvement of Gnomeregan and Nature"
Aka The SSTDGIGN
Hey, gnomes have never been good with short names or acronyms...
Tori Jun 28th 2009 9:36PM
Hah..their cat form should be the same as the companion cats, and their bear like the blizzard polar bear cub. ;D
devilsei Jun 28th 2009 9:51PM
We've only seen one form of the Techno Druid...
Rarely spotted in the wilds, Techno Druids prefer urban environments... the only thing rarer than them, is footage of their forms... here is one such form...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ
Rai Jun 28th 2009 10:02PM
Yes please.
Gryhmage Aug 3rd 2009 9:22PM
Technodruids? aka gogogadgetCatform?
thebitterfig Jun 28th 2009 9:20PM
cenarion circle has been underrepresented? there are at least a half dozen quests, but where is the earthen ring? and i don't meant he pre-dwarves. i mean the shammies. i guess there is that one tauren druid who hangs around with the various important paladins, but unless i'm missing something by playing horde, those who speak for the elements are virtually missing in icecrown, and that could spell doom against someone as powerful as the lich king.
impurezero Jun 29th 2009 2:24PM
I'm not to Northrend yet, but if I'm reading you right, you said half a dozen quests?
6 quests? That's pretty much what the Thorium Brotherhood got. Remember those guys?
snarkygoldfish Jul 16th 2009 11:16AM
The lack of the Earthen Ring presence in ALL of WoW so far is a bit...hmmm. (Outside of those lowbie horde quests, THE ICE STONE HAS MELTED, and the handful of quests in Nagrand) -- that they aren't a faction in game, when they supposedly have a LOT of power / influence...
I am really hoping that whatever expansion we see next, we get to dig further into some Shaman lore. Compared to everything that druids / paladins get to learn about their classes -- both in-game and in the novels...I feel a bit cheated. :(
Melissa Jun 28th 2009 10:21PM
To me, that conversation looks a lot more like they are hinting at druids being instrumental in destroying Arthas, not hinting at the next expansion. The focus of their unrest is both to go help the frontlines in Northrend.
Nathanyel Jun 29th 2009 6:00AM
I concur. The Northrend war on the Scourge is just the "current war", with soldiers being injured and sent home. Of course they are being healed by the druids. It's just a setup to a druid talking about his belief system.
Jingo Jun 28th 2009 9:19PM
"the first Tauren Paladin" oh god
Booyaka Jul 6th 2009 9:08AM
My mate was just joking about this Tauren Pally idea as the next "Heroic Class" in some upcoming xpac. Whew.
Winterhoof Jun 29th 2009 12:40AM
more accurately, "holy cow"
be79 Jun 29th 2009 2:27AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
JKWood Jun 29th 2009 5:01AM
"more accurately, "holy cow""
THIS ^^
I'd be thrilled to see Tauren paladins just for the chance to yell this in a battleground.
jjtwalton Jun 29th 2009 5:02AM
Hahahahaha