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6-29-2009 @ 8:07PM
This is completely ridiculous; these people chose to work as Gold Farmers which is now outlawed. Yes it sucks for them, it sucks for them to be out of a job as much as it sucks for a low level drug dealer, a brothel worker, or anyone else doing an illegal job. That's the risk they take, good pay for relatively easy work and no guarantee to the future.Pardon my poor prose but it really is a crock that they get any more mention than blah blah estimated X workers now out of work.
6-29-2009 @ 10:40PM
What exactly makes you think there's a choice? You're one of those people that look down on desperate to feed their family people who take a job at mcdonalds and treat them horribly, because if they didn't want to be treated horribly they'd find a better job huh? I worry what will happen to the areas of china where this is one of the very few viable means of staying ALIVE.
6-30-2009 @ 12:12AM
If I crane my head back far enough, Ted, I might be able to see you atop your high horse there!There WAS no law against the selling of virtual items for real money. And yes, these people chose to work as gold farmers. Many gold farmers get free lodging, free meals, and on top of that they get paid. They work ridiculous hours and the quartering is horrible, but it's fairly clean and safe. AND IT WAS LEGAL.Are you in fear that your job is suddenly going to become illegal? I expect these people never thought it would be something they would be facing.Comparing these people to drug dealers and brothel workers is an insult. Compare them to telemarketers if you like. It wasn't an illegal job when they started doing this. It is becoming one, and that really sucks for them. What skills do these people have? Is the government going to spend money helping these people retrain? They lose lodging, income, food.Have you ever been homeless?I have. I've slept under overpasses and even have a scar from where someone stabbed me to steal my blanket.Have you ever had to eat out of a soup kitchen?I have. Do you know how hard that is, especially if you have food allergies?It's not pleasant. And I had marketable skills, and simply worked in an area where there was no work. I have two diplomas and a degree, for God's sake. I eventually HITCHHIKED across Canada to a place where I had a friend and could wash and clean myself up and borrow some money for new clothes, and got a job.As a telemarketer.You know what? IT SUCKED. But it fed me. It gave me a home. And right now, I feel sorry for those people in China who suddenly don't have one. I CAN FEEL SORROW for the person, no matter how much I dislike gold selling.This is a game.For them, it was their life.It isn't a crock, it's reality. These people in China are suffering just as much as anyone who's suddenly lost their job in the USA or Canada or elsewhere in the world due to the depressed economy.Grow a fuckin' heart. And you won't see me asking to 'pardon my prose' or my language, because I'm not going to try to lame-out excuse myself or my opinion.And my kudos to the author for seeing beyond the knee jerk "YAY NO MORE GOLD SELLERS FROM CHINA" benefit to the harsh reality people will be facing overseas.
6-30-2009 @ 1:08AM
@ShryndaelSir, i salute you.
6-30-2009 @ 1:51AM
I think you all are missing the point here; this isn't all rainbows and puppy dogs. Have you all read up what the bulk of these guys (and I do mean guys) are doing? It tends to be young, single men, part of the growing and changing young lower/"middle" class of urban China. They aren't supporting families, they're supporting themselves. It's not a matter of life and death, these are subsistence farmers . They aren't boldly and bravely facing the world of Azeroth to make it a better place, no they're carving out their own little spot in the world, which is cool, it's fine. But they're doing it against the rules of at least one game they're profiting from.For the guys selling virtual goods in games that were cool with it, hey no problem, it really does suck for them (I'm assuming they're all legit). But lest you forget what a lot of these companies and workers really do: hack, scam, steal, delete. Un-sanctioned gold sellers were hacking and pillaging accounts at such a high rate that a video game company (let that sink in) had to get Security tokens on a level with securing corporate finance accounts. Sunshine and rainbows it isn't. So it wasn't illegal, but it was both immoral (in the case of the worse companies) and exploitative for those companies that only farmed and sold.Now onto the "hard work" issue; I don't have any claim on being the hardest working person in the world, or the one that went through the most hardships, nor the one that was born into the worst situations. But I've had to work crappy jobs cleaning toilets, scrubbing dishes, all that, then on to oppressive retail jobs, then to studying until 2 or 3 in the morning so I understand the value of hard work. Hell, I've worked two jobs more than once. I don't talk down to the guys at McDonalds (more likely Carl's/Hardy's for me), I tip well, I'm not an ass. This "solidarity of the downtrodden global worker" is a crock. These guys aren't downtrodden, they aren't indentured servants of an oppressive slave driver. They worked in a low-rent warehouse, essentially a call center.My entire point here is that how do people that ruin the game experience for at least hundreds of thousands of players, who at the least spam, at the worst hack and steal, how do they deserve any sympathy or any mention other than "they're out of a job"? Times are tough, jobs are lost, you do your best to keep your job, and in the case of Chinese gold farmers, you a) work in a game that allows this stuff and b) pray the powers-that-be don't create laws like this. What else can you do? I personally say good-riddance. I hope you get a job in a field with a more legal underpinning.
6-30-2009 @ 2:03AM
Oh my God, I've done it, I've written a wall of text in what amounts to an internet mini-flame war.Why? WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY?
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