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7-06-2009 @ 4:50PM
Usually a big fan of the show, but the Ensidia vs Exodus discussion was probably a new low for the show. Come on guys, you are above the 10 year old trolls spamming the official forums with rumors and whine.Also, just wanted to clarify a few things. - The Judgment of Light "exploit" is a UI glitch which does not effect the gameplay. - Ensidia had Lady Vashj despawn on them, that was also a bug, not an exploit. - The Spellstealing have never gotten anyone banned. Anyone remember the fire resistance buffs through Mind Controll in LBRS?- Exploiting bosses through evade always gets you banned. I got a temporary ban for evading the tiger boss in ZG into phase two while mount farming :DI can not believe you guys somehow tried to defend Exodus. In reading their responses to this they sound like a bunch of whiny kinds. I have played with countless Americans over the years and almost all of them have been very friendly and mature. Everybody should throw some hate Exodus's way for making the American raiding scene look bad.
7-07-2009 @ 4:41PM
A disclaimer I need to place at the start to prevent people from misunderstanding my stance on the issue: I don't agree with any type of exploiting and do not side with either Ensidia or Exodus. A rational person can agree that Exodus deserved their temporary ban and could have been more mature about the entire situation. I'm sure Ensidia's smugness is fortified by this event. (Yes this could be a jab at Ensidia because I hate elitists and there is no doubt that Ensidia contains some but I do apologize to the more humble players of Ensidia.)@ Niclas:Before you try to blurt out your personal facts perhaps you should confirm whether or not players have been banned for using spellsteal "creatively." Because if you did indeed do a little research then you would find that players have been banned for exploiting spellsteal within Naxxramas: the bone shield stolen from the Death Knights in the Military quarter. Your example is also incorrect. the fire resist buff was given by the mob through mind control. Spell Steal did not exist in Classic WoW. @Eoy:Your credibility can not be trusted for several reasons.You are either the Eoy of Ensidia and will obviously defend them regardless of the truth.You are not the Eoy of Ensidia and can not have any merit since you have no proof.Herein lies the dilemma that someone will most certainly point out. But if neither a player of Ensida nor a player outside of Ensidia can be trusted with telling the truth, how can we know the truth? That is exactly why the only way to know the truth is through proof such as video evidence. Words are empty and here this is very true. Why would Ensidia lie? The top leading guild would never lie to the masses, right? By lying, they defend their titles and no one is the wiser. The only people who know exactly how they did the fights are their own players and the blizzard reps that were most likely watching them in game. And it will remain this way for the end of WoW.In the end I wonder why I spent time writing this post but I guess I want to promote curiosity.
7-07-2009 @ 6:00PM
@n3ther If you read what I wrote again you will see that I actually wrote "through Mind Controll". My point being that they are pretty much the same use of mechanic. I see your point regarding the mage in Naxxramas, he should not have been banned. Although there is a difference between killing an unkillable boss (Hodir was buffed mid progress race), reporting how they did it after and soloing the entire military wing.Regarding Ensidias smugness and elitist behavior. If you visit their site and look around you will find that they are very friendly. Their community have become one of the WoW resources I use for improving my game play. They share their knowledge in class guides and extensive forum posts. So not are they only good players but they share their knowledge as well. I agree that they might seem elitist some times, but at least they are friendly.I realize that I might come off as an Ensidia fanboy in this thread, well so be it then. But the comments made during the show pissed me off quite a bit making me completely side with them here in this thread.
7-07-2009 @ 6:53PM
@n3ther I am indeed eoy from ensidia, but that doesn't make my points any less accurate. There is absolutely nothing that says that any of the claims of exploits used by Ensidia on the show have any piece of truth in them, besides Hodir that we admitted right away. That wasn't a World First Kill either way, the boss had already been killed by several guilds in it's former easier versions, and quoting mek: "This is not a World First, it has no meaning at all".Basically what I'm saying is that you need something to back up your claims with other than rumours fabricated by Ensidia haters, or you're going to end up sounding like bad tabloid.
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