Scattered Shots: Raiding spec for Hunter pets
Welcome to Scattered Shots. I am Eddie "Brigwyn" Carrington from The Hunting Lodge and you're not. Today we are reviewing what pets you should consider for raiding and how to spec out your pet for the best possible DPS. So join me will you? As we explore what it takes to make a raiding pet.This past week has been an interesting one for Hunters and their pets. If you were like me, finding out that Hunters could tame Garwal's Worgen form, reminded you of why being a Hunter is truly awesome. Of course it would last and Zyrhym showed up and had to burst our bubble by delivering the bad news that Blizzard was removing them from the game. Well, it was fun while it lasted.
What was nice about this glitch was the passionate responses seen on the Official Forums and Hunter community at large. It really highlighted how much we Hunters love our pets. Many of us see them more as companions than just some other weapon in our Hunter bag of tricks.
One way Blizzard has helped foster this idea is by letting us have three different categories (Ferocity, Tenacity, and Cunning) and literally hundreds of different pets to go out and tame. But to me the best part is being able to not only tame my pet of choice, but having the ability to train him. Doing this makes Hunters and their pets a combination as epic as Nutella and Pancakes.
When you set out to tame your pet, make sure and match your need with the correct category. For pure DPS you have Ferocity. Need a tanking or good solo pet? Get a Tenacity one. And if you are in a PvP situation and want to make sure someone has your back no matter what? You could try a Cunning pet. With dual specs and Call Stabled Pet you can now match up your spec with the right pet and further enhance your status as the Supreme Hunter! Let's take a moment and talk about Ferocity Pets and raiding specs, alright?
Raiding Pets
As I mentioned earlier, the Ferocity pet is a Hunter's raiding companion. Just like the Hunter in a raid, their only job is to help you down bosses faster. There is a down side to all this raw aggression. Ferocity Pets aren't known for their survivability. This is one reason you have heard Hunters over on the Official Forums complain about pet survivability and the Blizzard development team responded with the recent resilience changes.
There are several options out there for the hunter to choose to take along for a raid. However, if you are really looking to make sure and bring your spec's "A" game to raid you really only have two. For the Beast Master your best pet DPS choice is the Devilsaur. Yes, I know. It's really just an overgrown raptor. You're right, because of its size, no one in their right mind would let you take it in a raid with them. However, even with these issues, the Devilsaur is still the best raiding pet for the Beast Master Hunter.
Now if you're Marksman or Survival, and or if your raid refuses to let you bring T-Rex along with you, then your new best friend will be a Wolf. Wolves have earned their preferred raiding spot with everyone because of their Furious Howl. Furious Howl will increase the melee but more importantly the ranged Attack Power by a whopping 320. There is no way anyone can just sneeze at that.
Pet Talent Distribution
You need to be aware of a few things when deciding to spec your new best friend. If you are a Marksmanship or Survival Hunter you will have only 16 pet talent points to spend. You get 20 pet talent points if you are Beast Mastery. Let's look at where you will spend those points.
You'll first want to put two points into Cobra Reflexes. I know it does less damage, but the sheer number of additional attacks more than makes up for it.
Next you will want to put one point into Dash. This will help you send in your pet or call him back quickly aiding in pet management. Now that you have spent your required 3 points into the first tier, you can move on to the second.
Time to put 2 points into Bloodthirsty for Beast Mastery Hunters and 1 point for Marks/Survival. It might not seem all that useful, but remember, every moment you spend casting a Mend Pet means less DPS. Having Bloodthirsty will hopefully help and reduce the need to cast it as much.
Add to that 3 points into Spiked Collar and you now just gave Fido an additional 9% damage on all of his attacks.
The tier three talents might look a bit lackluster, but think of putting 3 points into Avoidance for the 75% reduction in damage from Area of Effect attacks as added insurance for pet survivability.
Your next choice is going to be three points into Spider Bite for a 9% increase in your pet's chance to land a critical strike.
You are going to spend two pet talents on the fifth tier. You need to put one point into Rabid. This will gives your pet a chance to increase its Attack Power by 5% over the next 20 seconds. What is even better about this talent is it stacks up to 5 times. Now can you see why we added Dash? Think of it as the pet's version of haste now giving you the possibility of increasing your pet's Attack Power by 20-25%. (Yes, I know the odds are against me that it would happen, but I can dream can't I?)
Now skip right over Lick Your Wounds and put a point into Call of the Wild. Right now Call of the Wild will increase your pet's Attack Power by 10%, lasting for 20 seconds.
On the final tier things change up a bit depending whether you are a Marks or Survival Hunter or Beast Mastery. The reason is due to Beast Mastery Hunters having Beast Mastery. Speccing into the 51st talent will cause you thave have four pet talent points remaining. On the other hand, if you are Marksmanship or Survival, you only have one pet talents remaining.
As a Marksmanship or Survival Hunter you want to put your final talent into Wild Hunt. Here your pet will get a contribution from your Stamina by 20% and Attack Power by 10%. (Note: As of right now MMO Champion reports that in Patch 3.2 we might even see that change to "Increases the contribution your pet gets from your Stamina by 20% and Attack Power by 15%.")
If you are a Beast Mastery Hunter you will want to put two talents into Wild Hunt increasing your contribution to Stamina by 40% and Attack Power by 20%.
Your final two talents should be placed into Shark Attack. Shark Attack is an instant 6% Attack Power boost. Nothing to sneeze at, that's for sure.
Recap
Now you have tamed your Wolf or Devilsaur and used up all of your pet talents making your pet one seriously mean dips machine. And to help make sure you have created either the 16 point talent spec or the 20 point spec I have included images of both below.

That wraps up this issue of Scattered Shots. Does your raiding spec look like this? Do you have any recommendations or changes for the readers? If so, I know I would love to hear them and am sure our readers would also.
(edit: Thanks Earthshade for catching the Dash link and the typo for Bloodthirsty. Much appreciated.)
You want to be a Hunter, eh? Well then you came to the right place. Scattered Shots is the one column dedicated to helping you learn everything it takes to be a Hunter. Each week Scattered Shots will cover topics to help you Fix Your DPS, Choosing the Right Spec, Gear Selection, Macros and Pet Selection, Pet Specs and Management.Filed under: (Hunter) Scattered Shots, Hunter, Raiding






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Ophelos Jul 9th 2009 10:54PM
Yes, i think he should get replaced.. I've stopped reading the scattered shot along time ago.. it kinda reminds me of the BM tutorial over on worldofraids that got the math all wrong.
Suinimtao Jul 9th 2009 10:07PM
"Now if you're Marksman or Survival, and if your raid refuses to let you bring T-Rex along with you..."
I miss BRK :(
emailformygames Jul 9th 2009 10:16PM
if that happens then you pull out your hydra and everyone who has sound enabled curses at you in vent :D
*lol i was laughing so hard when the first person noticed it was my pet
Seaborn Jul 9th 2009 10:30PM
Second the BRK remark. The specs make since. I have to say the wolves in NR seem to have some kind of walk bug. Sometimes they seem to be so damn slow. Anyone else notice this. My old world wolf does not have this problem.
Rugus Jul 10th 2009 7:23AM
Yes, they're ugly as hell and I hate the mouth too. That's why I'm leveling an old-world wolf atm.
theghost Jul 9th 2009 10:32PM
thats a good build and all but i use a stam build for my pet its bout keeping it alive since i raid and am survial
Oliguarde Jul 9th 2009 10:56PM
Third the BRK remark.
Usually, my build will focus on hitting as hard as possible. Honestly, I believe that your extra points could go so many better places than Dash. If you NEED a faster way for your pet to get around, I'd go with Boar's Speed, it's constant and doesn't need a cooldown, a little more consistent. As for a BM spec, HotP is NOT a horrible thing to invest in when your pet is a good 35-40% of your DPS.
It's all about "massive quantities of sustained ranged DPS" * whilst keeping your pet hitting as hard as possible, not running around as fast as possible. I can understand the convenience of these builds, but ultimately, you'd be losing out on better ways to keep that lovable DPS of a Devilsaur alive and nomnomnoming the opposition.
("massive quantities of sustained ranged DPS" is a trademark of Big Red Kitty, Worldwide Amalgamated. Sorry, Eddie, but you've got some big shoes to fill, whether you want to admit it or not.)
Microtonal Jul 9th 2009 11:11PM
@ "Honestly, I believe that your extra points could go so many better places than Dash."
Like stamina or armor? You have to spend that point somewhere in tier one. 4% stamina isn't going to be the difference between a dead pet and a live one, and if your raiding pet really needs more armor, you probably ought to turn Growl off.
For a raiding pet, Dash is the only useful place to put that third point in the tier.
brigthedwarf Jul 10th 2009 12:37AM
re: big shoes
I can never fill BRK's shoes and I have too much respect for Daniel to even try.
There will only be one BRK. I'll just have to settle for being Brig. :)
Quill2006 Jul 10th 2009 2:57PM
We all miss BRK, but I'm really enjoying seeing Scattered Shots again. This post was actually really useful to me; I haven't been paying much attention to my pet's talents. Also, dash is really useful if you've got a cat or spirit beast (two of the more popular pets) because prowl makes them SOOOOOO slow, so unless you want to wait 2 minutes after you send your pet in for it to get to the mob, dash is a must.
Oliguarde Jul 10th 2009 10:26PM
Ah, point taken and learned from. Dash = good, I suppose, it just...LOOKS useless, I guess.
And of course you gotta be yourself, Eddie. Who else you gonna be? You have my respect for doing that, but keep trying, you haven't completely won me over, but you're far higher than you started.
...not that my opinion has a rating system or anything...but I digress, and will shush until the next article.
andydidrichsons Jul 9th 2009 11:08PM
If you REALLY want to hear your raid start moaning bring out the giant orange wasp of doom. Our guild did a size comparion once and found that the wasp was taller and wider that an armoured tauren warrior.
Maggotbones Jul 9th 2009 11:23PM
I have had a mate argue that when a beast master hunter your talents should have "Frenzy" and if thats the case "Cobra reflexes" is a waste since it doesn't stack. He argues you pet should be critting enough for frenzy to stay up.
Thoughts?
Wipeman Jul 10th 2009 5:32AM
Cobra reflexes is used with rabid. You hit faster and although you deal less damage your chances to get that attack power boost are increased. And since you get that max 25% attack power faster which means higher dps. Faster attack speed but less damage means, since it's talent, that you don't deal less damage. This means with cobra reflexes you deal the same or more damage and rabid greatly enchances your dps. So yes cobra reflexes points are well spent.
Jamison Banks Jul 9th 2009 11:52PM
'It really highlighted how much we Hunters love our pets. '
Close but no cigar. It highlights how much people love WORGEN. C'mon Blizz, lemme have a worgen already! As a class, as a hunter pet, as a vanity pet, don't matter much, it's just a cool looking character.
Oh, and don't forget that pony.
Direphoenix Jul 10th 2009 12:48AM
One time I was helping a friend out in Outlands with the Nessingwary quests and one of the elites bugged. We called a GM and he fixed it, along with turning my owl into a human female ninja! Too bad it only lasted for 30 minutes, it was pretty awesome to have my own pet ninja for a while.
Erthshade Jul 10th 2009 12:11AM
Two quick notes:
One, you linked the Druid's catform Dash ability, not the pet talent.
Two, you've got 17 points when listing out the talents for MM/SV, but the images show the correct distribution. You didn't mention that Bloodthirsty only gets one point for non-BM.
Technical problems. Overall I agree with the talents you've picked.
brigthedwarf Jul 10th 2009 12:33AM
@Earthshade
I appreciate the catch on the links and point distributions. I've fixed them both.
Thanks again!
Kody Jul 10th 2009 12:15AM
personally I'd save the dash talent for Heart of the Phoenix. because less time rezzing= more dps. I do love my pet very much, if he dies in bgs..... I kill them all ^^
me2hot4this Jul 10th 2009 2:59AM
You can't take just take a point from dash and put it into heart of the phoenix because you need 3 points in tier one to move on to the next tier