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7-09-2009 @ 1:17PM
The weakness is the lack of points given for wipes. So if you're a progression raid there's less incentive to attend new bosses. I also like EPGP but you still have the problem of inflation. You can tinker with the inflation rate but it's still problem for new raiders in well established guilds. I like the zero-sum system with some modification for minor upgrades better in that way.
7-09-2009 @ 1:20PM
If you're using a bid system, inflation tends to be self correcting. What you find is that after all those wipes when everyone has a lot of DKP and the shiny new item 15 people want drops, it goes for a LOT.Prices come down as items drop more often, but the high demand items turn expensive and drain off the inflated DKP.
7-09-2009 @ 1:23PM
oops I meant spend-all instead of zero-sum. As someone mentioned SWAPs is basically zero-sum.
7-09-2009 @ 1:31PM
How do you see there being inflation in EP/GP? The whole point of a set decay factor renders any perceived inflation moot. If someone saves their points week to week and never takes loot, they are top in EP, but with a BaseGP and decay, just one item will bring them back down to earth. We're currently using EP/GP in Ulduar 25 and it's working really well.
7-09-2009 @ 1:34PM
While bidding for high value items does end up costing people significant fractions of their points, the overall reduction would tend to be pretty uneven. You would have to have high sample size of raids to have enough high value items dropping to equalize the points for people. And that's not to mention the effect of farm raids, for geared people they are just going to bank most points since they don't need most of the items. The blanket penalty over time that EPGP helps with inflation and does so evenly. Depending on bid systems to do so could lead to unusual point distributionsd and wouldn't (on the sample size of raids that most guilds have) reduce inflation well. Bidding systems have the problems of figuring out the market value of items. And people can play meta-games with it, depending on the nature of the bids (ie open).
7-09-2009 @ 1:39PM
We use EPGP and we've already had to up the inflation rate once since I joined the guild 6 months ago. Long time members had built up enormous points from farming Naxx for months. People who joined recently where feeling like they had no shot at gear, even after vets had won multiple items. Over time the issue would solve itself, but with the prospect of unhappy and discouraged initiates. So you still have issues and a manual correction is sometimes needed.
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