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7-13-2009 @ 12:54PM
@ToddYou seem to be a bit confused by the situation with Varian, so I wanted to give you a few details."Thrall was a slightly different case. The Orcs were the invading force at the time, and unknown force too, new to Azeroth. Humans had no idea what they were dealing with. True, this does not bear excuses. However, now when both sides are equally aware and educated on what is really going on the Horde decided to enslave a prominent leader of the opposing faction (while not at war with, right?) and use him for blood sport."First, the Horde didn't enslave Varian, that was Rehgar Earthfury. The "Arenas" he fought in were an underground circuit run by Goblin's known as the Crimson Ring, in which Rehgar took part for awhile on his own time away from his duties in the Horde. The one thing you also miss is that the Crimson Ring was actually open to all the races and factions. Night Elves and Humans often attended the various games in neutral areas like Dire Maul, and Log'Gosh (AKA Varian) was even hit on my night elves that heard of his gladiator prowess. Rehgar himself was even a gladiator owned by a human noble at one point in his life, put in games of death for the nobles sport. The arenas are not Horde specific but something many factions have done."That sounds to me like a good reason to go to war. Now I sincerely believe Thrall is appalled by the actions of the Horde, but it's not like Thrall was in the dark of all this taking place."He was not in the dark about his arena being used for neutral gladiator games, but he was in the dark about Varian because Varian himself didn't even know who he was. Everyone called him Lo'Gosh, which might I add, was an honorary name given to him by the Horde because he was such a badass. Varian was amnesiac, had no idea what his name was, and was considered at the time an Alliance deserter. It was not till he had already escaped that he learned his true name from Jaina Proudmoore. A human is a human in the end unless he give you a name that matters."With the way to Draenor now open, the Orcs can return home at any time. Yet they remain. The undead, the Forsaken, with undeath in general being an abomination, should take their leave. However, to keep things balanced 5 by 5, the lore won't head in that direction."Draenor does not exist. Outland exists, and it is basically 1/4th of a planet with another 1/2 of it being almost unlivable (Shadowmoon, Hellfire, Netherstorm). The orcs can not survive in Nagrand alone, not anymore. It was explained in one of the novels that even the southern lands after the First War were not enough to sustain the orcs, which is the main reason after his takeover that Orgrim Doomhammer started the Second War, to expand in the interests of survival, more then conquest. Even though many of those orcs did perish thus lowering the load of resources, a lot still lived on to this day, which is why the Horde is such a powerful force. Returning to a ball floating in the middle of the Twisting Nether is not in the best interest of the orcs.
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