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7-14-2009 @ 8:24PM
"It's in a better state now than it ever has been"Um, no.Balance was far, far better in Vanilla WoW. It wasn't red v blue, no, and pallies were grossly op but Vanilla WoW was a far more interesting, and challenging experience. Now it's a sheer dps race vs ungodly amounts of hp, both in pvp and in boss fights. CC? Kiting? Skill?No.
7-14-2009 @ 8:34PM
I'm not sure which vanilla you're talking about. Or where this skill or challenge was. Yes, Naxx40 and AQ were cool, but they were way late in the cycle and almost no one got to see them. The only challenge I remember in MC and BWL was the challenge of trying to farm gold when the only option was killing dudes in Tyr's Hand, or the challenge of trying to get 40 people to show up on time, or the challenge of putting together a fire/shadow/whatever set for one fight (we won't even mention the challenge of getting into a five man group if you were a hunter or loldps druid/paladin/shaman/priest/warrior). I could get into questioning the skill involved in endless, endless tank-n-spanks, or keeping up five minute buffs, but I think that might be overkill.
7-14-2009 @ 8:37PM
"Um, no.Balance was far, far better in Vanilla WoW. It wasn't red v blue, no, and pallies were grossly op but Vanilla WoW was a far more interesting, and challenging experience.Now it's a sheer dps race vs ungodly amounts of hp, both in pvp and in boss fights. CC? Kiting? Skill?No."Balance was far better but Paladins were grossly OP? Doesn't sound very balanced to me. Besides, Vanilla WoW was horrible. Endless grinding (a few hours of grinding for 1 hour of raiding, or thereabouts), entire specs being completely unviable to the point of being a joke, hybrids forced to heal in raids as their other specs were jokes... I could go on.Finally, your point about skill not being a part of PvE endgame in WotLK? Try some Ulduar hard modes then try saying that again. Or did you miss the part where Ensidia, Stars, et al said that Mimiron hard mode, Algalon, Yogg + 1/0 are the hardest encounters WoW has ever seen? Take off the rose-tinted glasses. Vanilla WoW was terrible. WoW is at its best ever right now, and it can only get better from here on.
7-14-2009 @ 8:45PM
Vanilla WoW was better, really? Hours and hours of farming mats for one attempt? Attunements that made joining a guild a nightmare? Having Blizzard choose your spec for you if your a hybrid? The old PvP system?"Balance was better in Vanilla WoW?" Are you out of your damn mind? Did you even PvP in Vanilla WoW?The game was harder, for stupid reasons, then now. I'll give you that. But better and more balanced? There may be more stupid people now than before, but the game is in a much better place than it's ever been. Seriously, do you even remember how terrible running MC was? What have you cleared exactly? Have you downed Alganon with your guild? Recieved your e-peen increasing "Death's Demise" title? No? Then how can you comment on the difficulty of things you haven't received yet?Yes, some things have been dumbed down. And yes, there are PLENTY of bad players to sift through. You need to take of the rose tinted glasses for a moment and remember just how BAD the game was five years ago before spouting the generic "it was better when it was hard" speech.
7-14-2009 @ 10:49PM
Indeed vannila was epic now its a just new instances being redone 4x to look like they added lots content....
7-15-2009 @ 5:51AM
sorry, more balanced in vanilla wow. entire specs were unusable, and a joke. one example neferians class calls, these were made to attempt too cripple one class unless they did something drastic.hunters role call was for there bow/gun to be broken because thats how they did damage druids role call was to be put in cat form.......Thats right cat dps was so bad it was considered comparable to breaking a hunters main weapon.
7-15-2009 @ 11:52AM
Paladins overpowerd in Vanilla WoW? HA HA HA, what planet were you from? I remember Vanilla wow and I certainly don't recall this ... unless it's some sort bias comment mixed from present attitudes. Ret and Prot were joke specs back then and when searching for a healer, paladins were NOT first choice. They were back up and support that was it.
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