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7-16-2009 @ 10:22PM
"(there's a reason Paladin tanks are still the kings of AoE tanking - take a paladin tank to Emalon and give him the adds to tank and his DPS will rival some of the actual DPS players, despite what Ghostcrawler has said above about not wanting tanks to do as much DPS as DPS specs)"some? ;)I was third on DPS and 2nd on actual damage last time I was there doing that. I did as much as the bottom 2 dps combined.I have seen bears and DKs do almost as much in that same spot.I'd love to see warriors there and doing the same. I'm sad out Warrior MT switched to a healer because his threat was so bad compared to me and he didn't want to hold back the raid. He's the only warrior I know that could actually hold threat against me for any real period of time. GIVE WARRIORS MORE DPS!!!!!
7-16-2009 @ 11:19PM
As much replying to the original topic as the quote.....but anyway doing high dps at the paladin tank on emalon adds is simply irresponsible and stupid, very stupid. The major add is nuked fast anyway so dps the tank does on it doesnt make any difference, as the paladin tank of my guilds regular voa run, I can kill extra adds just from my full aoe and full on dps by halfway through or earlier, which would force me to have to pick up an extra 3/4 new adds through the encounter risking them being loose at a bad time. If you know some paladin tank who does that they are dps meter whores and better not grouped with.All the normal aggro goes on the main boss, so a good tank will push quick aoe to have a nice threat lead and then single dps on the new add each time to put another threat lead on, and otherwise just keep up the defensive abilities.
7-17-2009 @ 8:31AM
My normal threat moves KILL the adds anyway, it is not going to matter.Holy Shield and consecration need to always be up. If you aren't using them you are taking more damage and the healers may have aggro issues on adds if you just sit there with autoattack on. SoV is ticking away on every mob most likely thanks to the new add eating a HotR. If you aren't judging you are taking 20% more damage from one of the adds, so you judge 2 of them at a time and lower the healing needed.The moment an add is overcharged you go into full threat mode. That means finding him, hitting him with judgement and then ShoR, and doing the full rotation. Anything less and the insane DPS coming in to kill him will pull aggro. So the entire group just ate a HotR, consecrate and is hitting the HS charges. I've done it plenty. Nothing you do is going to stop new adds from showing up. Paladin AoE is automatic and so pervasive you can't manage not to kill an add just from how you have to fight. I've tried doing it with no moves except the occasional judgement and holy shield. The adds still died simply from when someone got overcharged and the splash damage murdered one.
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