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7-17-2009 @ 2:40PM
"BOTH our DPS and TANKING can no longer compete. All you bear tanks will fire back "BC I couldn't get a group" but what you don't see or will refuse to admit is you could respec resto and get in groups. OUR problem is our tanking is mediocre and our DPS is downright pathetic."Warrior DPS is suppose to be lower. Warriors are suppose to dish out good damage but be great at mitigating it. Just like a mage whos defense is to deal a great amount of damage and not be able to take a hit. Its called class balance. So your saying druids are only suppose to heal warriors right? Come on now. Druids had it the worse of any class for a long long time. The druid bear tank is all about avoidance because we can't use a shield. I would hate all the classes being the same and really enjoy the versatility of tanking classes."let's make auras only useable in combat. "Auras ARE only useful when in combat. Why else would you need 5% to melee crit outside of combat?"The problem is WE ARE A USELESS CLASS RIGHT NOW."Maybe the problem is warriors don't know how to best use their class outside of just tanking.
7-17-2009 @ 4:01PM
Quote from Naix "Maybe the problem is warriors don't know how to best use their class outside of just tanking."That is a laughable statement coming from a class that can tank, heal, melee AND spellcast DPS. There are a great number of people that play this game well and a great number that play it poorly, but to suggest that Warriors aren't comparable in DPS because not a single person that plays a warrior knows how to play DPS is ridiculous.I just know that I felt more than worthless compared to Paladin tanks in BC. WotLK made me feel like a worthy tank again in comparison to other class tanks. Now I see we're going down that same road of being 2nd or 3rd class tanks once again and how can anyone blame us for being bothered by that. Sure, every class has had woes in the past but we just had Blizzard promise nice upgrades to Paladins in 3.2 and say that Warriors are fine as they are. That's messed up.
7-17-2009 @ 4:42PM
Aside from in pvp or the random heroic- when are dps warriors even remotely able to mitigate damage? we get aggro or do something dumb we die just as fast as any other class on a boss fight. period. We ware plate- so do ret pallies and dks- they still do more reliable dps than we do in their dps specs- their tanking mechanics work better than ours- and they have more raid utility than we ever had.
7-17-2009 @ 5:35PM
"to suggest that Warriors aren't comparable in DPS because not a single person that plays a warrior knows how to play DPS is ridiculous."I am not suggesting that at all. What I am suggesting is maybe that warriors are approaching a fight like a tank and not a dps class. Not to mention the warrior class is about mitigation and not about top DPS. "Warriors are fine as they are."I have to agree because warriors mitigate damage received fine and put out good, not top, dps. If you wanta be top of the DPS meters roll a rogue or DK.
7-17-2009 @ 6:38PM
your statements there are contradictory even if they are correct- if we are approaching a fight like a tank and not a dps then wouldn't we be rewarded in some way for being as you call it a "mitigation" class? The only places I've seen a extra buff for the extra armor we have is when a heroic boss whirlwinds or in pvp- which has nothing to do with our discussion of pve dps mechanics- frankly I can understand them nerfing arms damage because the nature of wielding a single 2 handed weapon is more spikey in damage than dual wielding- not to mention our previous dps spec- fury was more squishy in pvp because of the stance anyway. In a pve scenario if you are a melee dps there is virtually no plus to having more armor in a ideal world- it is only when you do are dumb enough to have a boss hit you with physical damage that armor comes into play at all.
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