If you ask me, it feels like there are a lot of new people raiding since LK who've never raided before, certainly not in a more "hard core" raiding guild. They don't seem to care if an upgrade is better for one person or another, or even if some piece of loots stats make any sense for their class or BiS for another. It's chaos, I tell ya. And most frustrating.

The system I like the best is: people research what gear/weapons their toons should strive for, BiS and other usable drops while waiting for a BiS. Listed on the guilds website, monitored by the officers and/or Class Leaders, and for -all- to see.

When something drops that more then one person can use (ie. is on their loot list and approved by officers/class leaders), players link what they are upgrading. Whoever needs the upgrade more gets the drop. If it's equal, then the players roll for it.

We are supposed to be team members, and a good team member wants what's best for the team, not for themselves. If the team is bettered, then everyone prospers and will eventually get the best gear they need in a timely manner.

Why is it that most of these new raiders can't seem to get that?

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