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7-20-2009 @ 1:40PM
Birdfall- oh, I agree, that makes sense.The way you phrased your response, it sounded as if you were holding pugs to stay for the entire raid, but did not care if your guildmates came and went.As someone who pugs regularly, I've run into some pretty obnoxious guilds with even more obnoxious rules regarding pugs. For example, I've had guilds who would give pugs second class priority on all loot, or held us up to standards (like failing the safety dance on Heigan = pug boot, but not a boot for guildies) that they do not hold for their own members. The worst is probably the random boot so a guildie can get in on a fresh run, when you've just started a fresh instance, effectively locking you out of an entire 25 man raid for a week.Guilds who pug often operate under the presumption that the pug is just along for the ride and that they are making loot possible for said pugger, when, from my perspective, the opposite is true (especially because I'm a healer). I make loot possible for them.Anyway, it is off-topic, but pugs need to be treated with exactly the same respect as everyone else. There are some really good, skilled players who pug, and you're only short changing yourself if you treat them poorly.
7-20-2009 @ 3:13PM
Couldn't agree more with this. Guilds that PUG are really helping themselves out in two ways: 1) They show the 'world' what their guild is like, and 2) They fill a crucial spot. For good guilds, its a way to show the server that this is a great guild to get into, because not only are they progressing, but are friendly and skilled. I always felt honored on my old guild, (we were pretty progressed at the time) when a random PUGer asked what our guild was like and if they could join. To me that says there is something valuable in our guild. Guilds that are two-faced regarding their PUG rules are really just shooting themselves in the foot. Especially those who demand X dps for damage classe PUGs, then go in with bad tanks/heals.
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