Birdfall- oh, I agree, that makes sense.

The way you phrased your response, it sounded as if you were holding pugs to stay for the entire raid, but did not care if your guildmates came and went.

As someone who pugs regularly, I've run into some pretty obnoxious guilds with even more obnoxious rules regarding pugs. For example, I've had guilds who would give pugs second class priority on all loot, or held us up to standards (like failing the safety dance on Heigan = pug boot, but not a boot for guildies) that they do not hold for their own members. The worst is probably the random boot so a guildie can get in on a fresh run, when you've just started a fresh instance, effectively locking you out of an entire 25 man raid for a week.

Guilds who pug often operate under the presumption that the pug is just along for the ride and that they are making loot possible for said pugger, when, from my perspective, the opposite is true (especially because I'm a healer). I make loot possible for them.

Anyway, it is off-topic, but pugs need to be treated with exactly the same respect as everyone else. There are some really good, skilled players who pug, and you're only short changing yourself if you treat them poorly.

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