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7-20-2009 @ 6:16PM
I'm probably going to be greyed out for this, but I don't get it. I mean psychologicaly I don't get it...This whole game is based on giving people rewards for doing any number of tasks - rewards including gear, levels, abilities, spells...and it's been successful.And now there's a whole system giving you...well nothing...and people are mad about it. Is it only me that can see through the emperors new clothes?Don't get me wrong, I like the achievements that give you titles and mounts...but all the rest that give nothing but points? I lose the ability to understand why people collect em.
7-20-2009 @ 6:23PM
Hmm... achievement points, or imaginary weapons & armour that get old whenever a new tier of raid instances is released.Fwiw, I like both. :-p
7-20-2009 @ 6:50PM
Like Jam says, there's no difference between the two, both reward systems (gear and achievements) are immaterial and ultimately temporary. The psychological hook to them both is very similar in that they offer a sense of accomplishment for both short and long term effort. If you try to analyse it in terms of the fictional game world - "this imaginary reward gives me a imaginary sword to kill more imaginary creatures" then you have become so immersed in the beautiful lie, that it is indeed like the emperor's new clothes. By all means, enjoy either accomplishment, but believing one is greater than the other is somewhat delusional.With regards to social status, I couldn't honestly say which carry more kudos, but clearly they both carry some respect in the community as this coverage proves.Personally, I enjoy the achievements more... which is the only measure by which I compare things.
7-20-2009 @ 6:58PM
It's like the highscore in an Arcade game, you might not get free sodas at the arcade, but other players will look at you with awe and jealousy.
7-20-2009 @ 7:02PM
I guess all the rewards can be seen as immaterial if you are standing at the top of the game looking down. But, for most of us out there, that's not the case.When I do dailies, I do them to get gold and finally afford my epic mount skill. Epic mount means faster dailies and herb farming.When I do raids, I do them so I can get better gear and experience new raid content.When I do PvP, I do them... well, mostly for fun, but also so I can get gear and become better at PvP.When I do achievements... I get nothing.You see my point I'm trying to make here?
7-20-2009 @ 7:11PM
It's a method of comparing yourself to others via your accomplishments (whether it be horribly random or clearing content). It's like virtual trophies, except it's more just text saying "here's what I did" with maybe a novelty item/title thrown in as a reward. It's mainly a completionist/ego thing.
7-20-2009 @ 8:29PM
I share Bod's puzzlement. High-end gear and related titles are evidence of defeating a top boss, or some other tangible and difficult achievement done with other people. I can see the usefulness of reputation for faction discounts, if nothing else. But going after Exalted rank in a bunch of random factions that require weeks of mindless grinding and offer absolutely, positively nothing in return? Spending more weeks on a seemingly-endless number of low-level quests in every single zone for the "Loremaster" title? I. Just. Don't. Get. It.
7-21-2009 @ 7:35AM
@Yeechang Lee - More eloquent than I ever could have been...that's exactly what I should have said, you captured it perfectly.
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