A discussion in defense of new race/class combinations, Pt. 3
MS: People are freaking the hell out over night elf mages.
DW: Oh yeah, this has been a big can of worms. But again, the lore exists and has existed for them. Night Elves pretty much perfected the use of Arcane Magic back when they were known as the Highborne, before the Sundering.
MS: Right. And Illidan himself was a Mage before he went demon-crazy. Obviously, Night Elf society has wholly rejected arcane magic for quite some time -- like, since the Sundering -- but Blizzard has actually opened the door for Night Elf Mages just recently, haven't they?
DW: The groundwork has definitely been laid. In Patch 3.2.2, we see a Highborne Archmage seeking an audience with Tyrande, but that's hardly the beginning of it. We've had the confirmed presence of Highbourne in Dire Maul for years now, for example. Certainly there's probably multiple good reasons for the surviving Highborne to seek refuge with the Night Elves, considering they're the same race in all but name and some minor cultural hangups.
MS: The whole reason for the Night Elves decrying the use of arcane magic was legitimate, but if anything, they should see nowadays that with the advent of Mage Hunters and Malygos' insane crusade against magic users, there are far worse threats in the world than arcane magic. One of those is pushing too hard against arcane magic.
DW: Exactly, and beyond that, the Night Elves have to have mellowed out on their approach to arcane magic over the years, considering they're now part of an Alliance that makes extensive use of Mages. That, at the least, would leave enough of a door open for them to tolerate a resurgence of magecraft among their own ranks.
MS: And honestly, we see this kind of thing with Warlocks all the time, in almost all playable races! They're tucked away in dark corners of the cities, and maybe not publicly accepted, but faction leadership seems to understand that having any given type of magic as a friend instead of an enemy is a good idea.
DW: And it looks like Dwarves and Night Elves might not be the only ones accepting the arcane back into their repertoire. Orcs are supposed to follow suit.
MS: Orc mages are ... I'm not sure. Hrm.
DW: I admit that Orc Mages probably stumped me the most of all the new race choices. I think the angle we should go with here is Gul'dan. Generally, Warlocks are Mages before they take the plunge into the whole demonic level of magic, so chances are Gul'dan and the other members of the Shadow Council were Mages at some point.
MS: But then again, they were also Shaman before that.
DW: True, so it might be best to take another tack here. Consider this: Orcs as a race are pretty much a living object lesson of what happens when you get too deep into magic, especially the demonic side. The misuse of magic lead to their homeworld being torn apart, with even the few livable fragments left being slowly torn apart year after year. It's made them galactic refugees.
MS: And Orcs already aren't exactly known for their restraint.
DW: Right. And even moving beyond the actions of the Orcs themselves, they've lately seen more examples of misuse of magic leading to bad ends and near-catastrophe. Consider Varimathras in the Battle of Undercity, the extensive damage Malygos has done to multiple parts of Northrend in trying to reclaim all magic, and even the untimely death of Grand Warlock Wilfred Fizzlebang in the Crusader's Coliseum.
MS: And, lest we forget, half the major Orc villains are Warlocks! One of them was the original Lich King, without whow we wouldn't even have Arthas around!
DW: Haha, exactly. Given all of that, it may be some Orc Warlocks have just plain said, "Hey, whoa. Let's take a step back here. I don't really feel like getting my soul consumed by demons. Maybe we should tone down the magic use a bit." And Voila: Orc Mages.
MS: It seems like the most plausible scenario, and it's actually particularly likely given that Thrall is trying to teach everyone in the Horde -- starting with Garrosh -- the value of restraint.
Mage columnist Christian Belt's perspective: Orcs have Blood Fury, which for Mages will increase spellpower--a stat all Mages are quite enamored with. Hardiness will aid the PvPing Mage, as less time spent being stunned means less time getting stabbed by Rogues. Also, I think I speak for all of us when I say welcome, Thrall, to Magehood. Now if you could just teach us how to wear plate...
Night Elves have a passive resistance to nature spells. They also have Quickness, which provides a decreased chance to be hit by melee and ranged attacks. Mages everywhere are united in an intense desire to avoid being struck by anything, so we're in favor of both of these racials. Also, Night Elves have Shadowmeld. This ability lets Mages hide like the fragile little snowflakes they are. It can be used as a way to not get jumped immediately upon entering an arena match, or as a way to abandon the rest of the raid to die painfully when the tank dies, just like Invisibility, only you can now watch as Algalon slaughters them one by one from your hiding spot in the shadows instead of just having to imagine it. Oh, and a Night Elf Mage turns into a Wisp Spirit upon death, and can more speedily return to their corpse than they would otherwise be able to. Since Mages frequently find themselves involuntarily separated from their corporeal bodies, this will save us a tremendous amount of time.

DW: Blood Elf Warriors are the other easy call. I mean, I still have picture of a PC Gamer cover featuring a Blood Elf Warrior in full tier 1 Warrior gear sitting around here somewhere. They most definitely exist in lore too. In Warcraft III, we saw both Blood Elf Footmen and the elite warriors of the Blood Elves, the Spellbreakers.
MS: I think Blizzard justified it by saying that all of the former Blood Elf Warriors simply became Blood Knights, but everyone knows that's not the real reason. Blood Elves had access to "too many" classes, and Hunter was chosen over Warrior because the idea of an elf ranger is more iconic than an elf meat shield. Also, it was a pretty clever move to ensure that the Horde's "new" class for BC, the paladin, was given a ton of spotlight as the new race's only tank class.
DW: Yeah, but now that Blizzard (thankfully and correctly, in my opinion) has eased up on the classes-per-race restriction, we have our Blood Elf Warriors back. To me, Blood Elf Spellbreakers are more Iconic for Blood Elves anyway (I mean, come on, even in WoW, they're on every corner of Silvermoon city as guards), while Rangers are more a High Elf thing, so I'm definitely happy to see the long overdue implementation of Blood Elf Warriors.
MS: Right, this is definitely something that's been a long time coming, was a gameplay choice over lore, and will finally allow you to create the bishie emo loner swordsman you've always desired. Fist bump!
Warrior columnist Matthew Rossi's perspective: Since I'm the warrior dude... Originally I think the idea that BE's couldn't be warriors was intended to prevent two things. The first was PvP related: imagine all the warriors who would have rolled BE for the racial ability to silence casters. It would have rivaled Forsaken as the most played Horde Warriors PvP side. I also think you were right with what you said earlier, that paladin tanks Horde-side would have taken a hit if the only race that could play them could also play warriors, since warriors were at that time expected and established tanks. All I can say is -- I can't wait to use Arcane Torrent.






Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Marco Aug 18th 2009 1:27PM
How can Tauren paladins and priests will exist when night elf paladins will not?
The Tauren got their druidism from the night elves. And now they evolve further and faster in the holy school than the NE's do? Bit weird if u ask me.
Paladins are a holy priest/warrior combination. I think that if Tauren can become paladins the night elves should be able to aswell.
Rakada Aug 18th 2009 1:37PM
It says pretty specifically that the Tauren are questioning the Night Elves' belief system, and as a result, they are discussing the merits of following the sun. Night Elves are NOT doubting their own druidic beliefs, and thus, are NOT going to be paladins.
Falcon6 Aug 18th 2009 1:49PM
It's probably out of class balance nowadays. And I'm not talking about if one class is better than the other. I mean actual balance between Horde and Alliance.
In TBC, when the total for Paladin reached 3, it was accompanied by a single Paladin race for the Horde while the Alliance got a Shaman race. So it ended up evening out on both sides, which got 3 of their originally faction-only class and 1 of their opposite-faction class. Now that Dwarves are getting Shaman and Tauren are getting Paladin, that would make it 2-3 Paladin and 3-2 Shaman. (Horde - Alliance) Evening out Paladins to 4 races would mean giving the Horde another Shaman, and unless Goblins are capable of Shamanism, it's very unlikely that we'd get another. Forsaken and Blood Elves just don't swing that way.
Out of all the races Horde-side to give Paladin to, Tauren seem to be the most plausible because of their bulk and capabilities as a tank, plus their normally peaceful attributes. Forsaken wouldn't work because they preach to a different power than the Light, and unlike Priests, there isn't something like a "Dark Paladin" power like Shadow Priests have. Lore-wise, Forsaken heal as a Priest because they might need to to forticate and heal their armies. Orcs are too savage to preach to the Light. Trolls are capable, but it might take a while to actually set in.
Suzaku Aug 18th 2009 2:37PM
Night elves worship the moon. Even the priests. Their priests and druids get their powers from Elune.
The tauren discussions, on the other hand, imply that the power of the sun will lead to them controlling the Holy Light. The Holy Light comes in many forms, but the moon isn't one of them. The sun? Sure.
Chris Anthony Aug 19th 2009 8:59AM
Suzaku, I think you have to pick between "night elf priests get their power from the moon" and "priests can't get power from the moon".
macster Aug 18th 2009 1:41PM
My Felhunter is looking forward to trying all these new flavours of mage. I've made him a special bowl, and everything...
Arturis Aug 18th 2009 2:52PM
I was always under the impression that the reason that Night Elves shunned the Arcane was because they didn't want to get the attention of the Burning Crusade focused on Azeroth once again. Well, at this point, its a bit late for that - The Burning Crusade has already arrived. So I guess its time to drop the pretense and pull out the big firepower (or frostpower, or arcanepower) and fight for all its worth.
Thorie Aug 18th 2009 2:59PM
I can't see a Blood Elf saying "I need moar raaaage"
Suzaku Aug 18th 2009 5:12PM
This comment really saddens me.
The blood elves were SO angry and obsessed with revenge in TFT. I really miss that side of them.
Anyway, they already have rage recordings... They actually *are* pretty silly.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64311063a8adbb3e/
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64311099017a4e5c/
Khanmora Aug 18th 2009 5:47PM
Med'an (quarter orcish son of Medivh and Garona) is, at least genetically, probably one of the most powerful mages on the planet. All it would take is setting him up as a leader to the people and teacher of the arcane to easily explain orc mages.
azioL Aug 18th 2009 6:31PM
once cataclysm launches with *faction changes* ill be changing my draenei alt into a undead hunter... so I can finally have my favorite DOTA toon :D
Lazaro Aug 19th 2009 3:52AM
Did Bli² give a hint about possible race change inside your own faction? With those new race-classe combinaisons, it should be possible... THX
Demonslayer Aug 19th 2009 3:30PM
Honestly... The thought of BE warriors saddens me. IMHO Blood Elves seem to be the more magical type, not some bloodthirsty person looking to smash the s**t out of stuff. If this actually happens, I'm qutting WoW... for ever
Nawaf Aug 26th 2009 1:28AM
The return of the highborne! Malfurion stormrage is coming back in cataclysm. I wonder what he would do when he sees what he was very afraid of coming back. He imprisoned his own brother and exiled all of the mages (who became high elves). I'm really excited to see what he'll do. For everyone who say he's not coming you can just read the article on this site "cataclysm: the story so far." Orc mages don't make sense, and I noticed how hard you were trying to put it together. BE warriors make a lot of sense.