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8-18-2009 @ 1:10PM
This is not a game based on fact and real events guys? Blizzard invented the Lore. I don't get what the problem is? Is it part of the lore that Mankrik send 11 million people on quests to find his wife?It's an online persistent world, enjoy yourselves.
8-18-2009 @ 1:26PM
Cool. Then I guess you would be okay if they added lightsabers and F-16 mounts?After all, it's not real events.I'm less of a lore junkie than most, and I'm pretty much fine with all these combos, but maintaining some sense of order and, for a lack of better term, reality, in their game world is a big deal to some people. I've heard a lot of Horde players that would be truly miffed if Garrosh became Warchief. Call them dorks, if you will, lollore, and all that, but those people are no less important than the people that only care about item levels and how big their crits are going to be.
8-18-2009 @ 1:54PM
Granted, I took a rather large extreme, but then, you did too. Equating new race/class to a real-life, mixed raced, successful golfer? I'm almost surprised you didn't channel Obama.As far as pop culture references go, lore junkies don't care about insignificant NPC's like Kara Thricestar that hold no real significance, or that their weapon is referenced to a Brad Pitt movie. They care about the history and culture of the races they play. A couple of Tauren basically having conversations that equate to "Well, we're bored of this Earthmother stuff. Let's try the Light out." Something 5 years ago, and throughout the history of the Warcraft franchise (since War 3, really) that didn't fit with the Tauren mythos, suddenly being retconned in for the sake of more player options? That's a pretty big deal.Again, it doesn't matter to me, so I'm not going to be overly concerned if Tauren have white swirly hands instead of green swirly hands, but it might matter to a lot of people. As I said, this universe was around long before WoW existed.
8-18-2009 @ 2:08PM
Agreed they shouldn't overdo it, but we have seen light-sabre like weapons in game already. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24361For races to learn new skill and share with other of their faction is a good thing. They have never said that races are unable to learn a certain class only that they can't currently learn it.It's good for class/race diversity. To make rare obscure combinations that not many play.. it adds the ability for players to not conform to a certain standard but play with a story/style they enjoy.Creating rigid class/race lines doesn't hurt the game but doesn't always help either. Lore-wise they'll make what they do work. And like real life.. weird stuff happens. When Fantasy is made to conform... is it still fantasy?
8-18-2009 @ 2:09PM
@MassadoniousYeah, I can totally see how adding fighter jets and technology from sci-fi is comparable to a realistic leadership change (something that happens all the time in the fantasy genre) or races learning to take on new classes (something we do as real life humans constantly). Definitely nothing realistic about that....Using your logic, everyone might as well get angry at authors for changing their stories for the purpose of progression.
8-18-2009 @ 2:12PM
@TorlazAs someone who is contemplating faction changes, diversity is definitely a good thing, but I still can see how it can be game breaking to some people.
8-18-2009 @ 2:18PM
@hailCute, but maybe if you bothered to read the rest of my post(s) you can see a more rationalized argument and would see that I already admitted I took that particular analogy to the extreme.My "F-16" in this case, would be something like a Undead Paladin, or a complete faction switch of a race, something that would be completely in line with the Warcraft universe, but still gamebreaking to some people.Besides, we already have rickety flying machines and bombers in this game. Fighter jets wouldn't be too far of a stretch. =)
8-18-2009 @ 2:29PM
Oh man, I must have missed that they were adding an Undead Paladin along with the rest... oh wait... THEY AREN'T. Rendering your next hyperbole as moot as your last one. It's almost as if (and bear with me here) Blizzard is attempting to justify how the ones they selected actually have backgrounds and reasoning behind them. Protip: Using extreme while unrealistic examples to try and compare a one thing to another usually just nulls your arguments as most people are too smart to think it's comparable.
8-18-2009 @ 2:37PM
You wanted a better analogy than a real life fighter jet, I gave you one. I never said Undead Paladins were ever going to be implemented, but in the context that the Warcraft universe holds to some people, Undead Paladins might as well be F-16's or any other real life object.But I guess I'll join the rest of the herd, even though I made it clear, twice, in fact, that I never really cared one way or the other. Next time, I'll play Devil's Advocate with a less hostile audience.
8-18-2009 @ 2:51PM
To be fair, I know you are playing devil's advocate, so my arguments are not posed at you personally. I know you are presenting the same arguments many crying Lore fans currently are, so I am responded as if you are one. Maybe I am just missing something big here as I couldn't possibly care any less about Lore, but it seems to me that Blizzard is at least trying to do it in such a way that you could argue in favor of its rationality. It seems more like the Lore fans are realistically arguing for "absolutely no change" under the false pretense of "oh maw gawd, it doesn't make sense!!!!111one" In any case, what a dull game this would be if the lore (read: game) never changed in the five years many of us have been playing it.
8-18-2009 @ 4:47PM
@hail_averse_sefira :I don't think everyone is averse to change I think its just some of speculative reasoning or lore is bleh.
8-18-2009 @ 5:24PM
i'd like my F-16 and lightsaber please.
8-18-2009 @ 5:59PM
I'm with joerendous on this one. I'd like my F-16 to have a Hula Girl Doll on the dash. kthxbai!
8-18-2009 @ 8:38PM
Crusader Strike: Now summons an F-16 which fires lightsabers at the target, dealing Holy damage.Works for me. Ret = fixed.
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