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8-24-2009 @ 2:09PM
I always ask before need-rolling on anything. That's usually sufficient.
8-24-2009 @ 2:12PM
Ditto,I don't like needing on something with out asking first regardless if loot rules have been established to begin.
8-24-2009 @ 4:43PM
When something is an upgrade for me, regardless of the spec I am currently in, I roll N on it. Honestly, why do you ask? There's being nice, and trading it to someone who needs the upgrade more, but then there's realizing, oh hey, we can FARM This crap forever and it WILL drop again. For example, you see the drop that you KNOW you want because it's an upgrade. You ASK for some reason if you can N roll when it drops. Someone in the group says "No." What gives THEM the right to decide what gear is an upgrade for you? There is etiquette for running with PUG's, with Guilds, and maybe with friends, RL or otherwise, but in the end, YOU are the one who should know what is the best upgrade for you. So, to sum up, take control and roll N when you want the piece of loot that drops. That's why Blizzard put that button in there.
8-24-2009 @ 5:35PM
Forgot to mention I only really do that when rolling on tank pieces; since I don't have a full enough tank set yet, I have to DPS heroics to get tank gear, which causes issues.
8-24-2009 @ 7:09PM
I don't know why Bean got voted down for that, other than most WoW players are closed-minded about this type of thing. Obviously, Blizzard thinks that is a fair system, or we would have seen something else by now. ou might not like the results, but it is perfectly fair to roll need/greed on anything you can use. What technically isn't fair is guild leaders blocking you out of something for whatever their feeble reasoning might dictate. If people didn't master loot shit and everyone used a little bit of common sense, guild drama would disappear almost entirely. That being said, people's awful behavior in groups is the reason I now play exclusively solo. I never pug or raid anymore, as I have never had even a remotely positive experience in a group.
8-24-2009 @ 8:24PM
@AnaughtybearNeed/Greed is a mechanism, a means to an end. Bean's attitude sounded dangerously close to "I'll roll for whatever the hell I like and everyone else can sit and spin". Maybe he just phrased it poorly, but that's how it came out. It resonated with one reason people hate PUGs so his post got rated down. Asking before rolling is more like a "heads up" so people can object and the group can work it out. People tend to get pissy when other just roll without warning, though this should be mitigated somewhat with the new loot trade ability. Look, you're always gonna have loot whores and loot micro-managers. Let's just keep it civil, eh?
8-25-2009 @ 6:47AM
@bean, You say: we can FARM This crap forever and it WILL drop again. And that is true, it will drop again, but what you fail to realize in your narcissistic haze is that the same applies to you. Since it will drop again, you can wait your turn. If the person with the greater need rolls on it, by etiquette, and by basic decency, you should pass on it. I thought they still taught this kind of thing in kindergarten. No?
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